New FBI stats show 'historic' declines in violent crime rate, with murder showing sharpest drop

[XCR1250]

Chicago’s Fourth of July 4th. 2024 weekend bore the data out, with 109 people shot, including 19 fatally, police said in a Monday news conference. All of the victims were boys and men ranging in age from 16 to 36 years old, according to police records.

[Pete]

5 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

No I dont know that and neither do you. You're just repeating bs that Trump spews to scare the weak minded.

He scares you. Thank you for admitting youre weak minded.

[Steve753]

2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Chicago’s Fourth of July 4th. 2024 weekend bore the data out, with 109 people shot, including 19 fatally, police said in a Monday news conference. All of the victims were boys and men ranging in age from 16 to 36 years old, according to police records.

The gun violence that flared this week in Washington, D.C, Louisiana, Florida, Philadelphia, Texas, Baltimore and Boston left more than a dozen dead and more than 60 wounded — including children as young as 2 years old

[Steve753]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

He scares you. Thank you for admitting youre weak minded.

If I believed his bs I'd vote for him. That's you.

[XCR1250]

Public safety group finds FBI violent crime data is higher than initially reported

 

Public safety group finds FBI violent crime data is higher than initially reported

A new report claims violent crimes are significantly underreported, and FBI crime classification has changed

 By Jamie Joseph 

Published April 8, 2024 12:53pm EDT

 

 

Polk County Sheriff on the 'idiot-ology' of 'crazy' soft-on-crime laws: 'One day, you'll be a victim if you haven't been already'

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd discusses squatters rights and soft-on-crime legislation in an interview with Fox News Digital.

An independent group of law enforcement officials and analysts claim violent crime rates are much higher than figures reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in its 2023 violent crime statistics.

The Coalition for Law Order and Safety released its April 2024 report called "Assessing America's Crime Crises: Trends, Causes, and Consequences," and identified four potential causes for the increase in crime in most major cities across the U.S.: de-policing, de-carceration, de-prosecution and politicization of the criminal justice system. 

The lead authors of the report are Mark Morgan, former assistant FBI director and acting commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection during the Trump administration, and Sean Kennedy, an attorney for the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. 

The new report reveals three major findings: that the U.S. faces a public safety crisis beset by high crime and an increasingly dysfunctional justice system; that crime has risen dramatically over the past few years and may be worse than some official statistics claim; and that although preliminary 2023 FBI data shows a decline in many offenses, violent and serious crime remains heightened compared to 2019 data.

Researchers wrote, "to say crime is down is like descending from a tall peak and standing on a high bluff, saying you are closer to the ground – a true but misleading statement."

 

The report coincides with a March 2024 Gallup poll which found that nearly 80% of Americans say they personally worry about crime and violence "a great deal or fair amount," placing it ahead of other issues and on par with inflation.

"Americans' support for greater law enforcement and stiffer criminal penalties has increased as polls show that the public believes crime has risen, and they feel less safe," the report noted. 

Through aggregated data sets directly from more than 70 of the nation's largest police departments and victim surveys, researchers claim violent crime has been "substantially elevated in major cities" compared to pre-2020 levels. The group's research also showed that due to significant under-reporting of certain crimes, the FBI's official data doesn't completely capture the full snapshot of crime in the U.S.

"There's a series of caveats attached to the FBI data that the FBI doesn't make as clear as they should," Sean Kennedy, one of the lead researchers, told Fox News Digital in an interview. 

 

About 80% of Americans say they personally worry about crime and violence. (iStock)

Kennedy said that, particularly in the aftermath of the 2020 George Floyd riots, several police departments redefined the classifications for certain violent crimes and transitioned away from a decades-old recording system. 

"If you classify something as an aggravated assault, it's a violent crime or a felony, but if you classify it as a simple assault, it's then a misdemeanor and a non-violent crime," Kennedy said. "That is a world of difference when it comes to how the media is going to portray whether or not your department is fighting violent crime."

However, the police are not the only ones appearing to under-report. Businesses and individuals who are victims of violent crimes have also shown a pattern of reluctance when it comes to calling the police. The Loss Prevention Research Council’s survey of retailers sheds light on the reasons behind the lack of reporting. The study shows that typically, business owners tend to harbor the belief that police will not respond promptly or investigate crimes, and prosecutors will not pursue charges against the perpetrators.

"It is difficult to measure how much crime is underreported, often ‘downcharged,’ by law enforcement since the number of reported crimes reflects the categorizations of police agencies themselves," the researchers wrote. 

 

The FBI said it had no comment on an external report. It noted that participation in the Uniform Crime Reporting program is voluntary. (Ocala Police Department)

"FBI data is taken as gospel truth, when the FBI itself puts a series of footnotes all over their own data," Kennedy said.

In 2019, 89% of municipal police departments – spanning about 97% of the population – submitted crime data to the FBI. To compensate for incomplete data, the FBI will fill in gaps using "inferred" statistics, the report notes. 

However, by 2021, less than 63% of departments spanning across 65% of the population submitted crime data. Several big cities – Los Angeles, New York City, and Chicago – did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year. 

When reached on Monday, the FBI said it had no comment on an external report. It noted that participation in the Uniform Crime Reporting program is voluntary – the UCR program is how the FBI collects crime data from local law enforcement agencies. 

Yet this month, officials in the New Orleans Police Department announced they had under-reported sex crime data that was filed to the FBI in 2021 and 2022. In 2014, a Los Angeles Times investigation found that the Los Angeles Police Department had "systematically downgraded" serious violent crime offenses to minor offenses between 2005 and 2014. 

Researchers added, "There is no evidence that police agencies or reporting authorities consistently or persistently engage in such misreporting or manipulation, but it represents an unknowable data gap between actual crime levels and official statistics."

 

Several big cities, including Los Angeles, did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year.  (Manhattan Beach Police Department)

 

The report places the blame for the high crime rate on soft-on-crime initiatives, which falls in line with several states backpedaling course on so-called soft-on-crime policies. In the last year, Democratic lawmakers in California and New York have begun introducing bills to restore stricter penalties for certain violent crimes.

[Doug]

3 hours ago, Steve753 said:

That's why it's silly to blame on a potus. Chicago democrats are to blame.

Yes/No.

Anytime there is a shooting which is sad by all means our current President Uncle Joe jumps on the buy more votes opportunity and pledge for tougher gun laws bla bla bla bla.  Even though his own son broke the laws that Uncle Joe wants to firmly enforce.

The man needs a safe place where he's out of public office and MC is wiping his ass and emptying his bag.

[Steve753]

39 minutes ago, Doug said:

Yes/No.

Anytime there is a shooting which is sad by all means our current President Uncle Joe jumps on the buy more votes opportunity and pledge for tougher gun laws bla bla bla bla.  Even though his own son broke the laws that Uncle Joe wants to firmly enforce.

The man needs a safe place where he's out of public office and MC is wiping his ass and emptying his bag.

I honestly don't care what Joe does as I would never vote for him. 

[Deephaven]

12 hours ago, Mainecat said:

“historic”

 

12 hours ago, Skidooski said:

Like his debate performance 

Which will go down in history as an embarrassment to the US as fast as kamala will go down on whomever to promote herself 

10 hours ago, Pete said:

He scares you. Thank you for admitting youre weak minded.

Speaking of weak...are you really that dumb you found that to be clever enough to type it?  

9 hours ago, XCR1250 said:

Public safety group finds FBI violent crime data is higher than initially reported

 

Public safety group finds FBI violent crime data is higher than initially reported

A new report claims violent crimes are significantly underreported, and FBI crime classification has changed

 By Jamie Joseph 

Published April 8, 2024 12:53pm EDT

 

 

Polk County Sheriff on the 'idiot-ology' of 'crazy' soft-on-crime laws: 'One day, you'll be a victim if you haven't been already'

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd discusses squatters rights and soft-on-crime legislation in an interview with Fox News Digital.

An independent group of law enforcement officials and analysts claim violent crime rates are much higher than figures reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in its 2023 violent crime statistics.

The Coalition for Law Order and Safety released its April 2024 report called "Assessing America's Crime Crises: Trends, Causes, and Consequences," and identified four potential causes for the increase in crime in most major cities across the U.S.: de-policing, de-carceration, de-prosecution and politicization of the criminal justice system. 

The lead authors of the report are Mark Morgan, former assistant FBI director and acting commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection during the Trump administration, and Sean Kennedy, an attorney for the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. 

The new report reveals three major findings: that the U.S. faces a public safety crisis beset by high crime and an increasingly dysfunctional justice system; that crime has risen dramatically over the past few years and may be worse than some official statistics claim; and that although preliminary 2023 FBI data shows a decline in many offenses, violent and serious crime remains heightened compared to 2019 data.

Researchers wrote, "to say crime is down is like descending from a tall peak and standing on a high bluff, saying you are closer to the ground – a true but misleading statement."

 

The report coincides with a March 2024 Gallup poll which found that nearly 80% of Americans say they personally worry about crime and violence "a great deal or fair amount," placing it ahead of other issues and on par with inflation.

"Americans' support for greater law enforcement and stiffer criminal penalties has increased as polls show that the public believes crime has risen, and they feel less safe," the report noted. 

Through aggregated data sets directly from more than 70 of the nation's largest police departments and victim surveys, researchers claim violent crime has been "substantially elevated in major cities" compared to pre-2020 levels. The group's research also showed that due to significant under-reporting of certain crimes, the FBI's official data doesn't completely capture the full snapshot of crime in the U.S.

"There's a series of caveats attached to the FBI data that the FBI doesn't make as clear as they should," Sean Kennedy, one of the lead researchers, told Fox News Digital in an interview. 

 

About 80% of Americans say they personally worry about crime and violence. (iStock)

Kennedy said that, particularly in the aftermath of the 2020 George Floyd riots, several police departments redefined the classifications for certain violent crimes and transitioned away from a decades-old recording system. 

"If you classify something as an aggravated assault, it's a violent crime or a felony, but if you classify it as a simple assault, it's then a misdemeanor and a non-violent crime," Kennedy said. "That is a world of difference when it comes to how the media is going to portray whether or not your department is fighting violent crime."

However, the police are not the only ones appearing to under-report. Businesses and individuals who are victims of violent crimes have also shown a pattern of reluctance when it comes to calling the police. The Loss Prevention Research Council’s survey of retailers sheds light on the reasons behind the lack of reporting. The study shows that typically, business owners tend to harbor the belief that police will not respond promptly or investigate crimes, and prosecutors will not pursue charges against the perpetrators.

"It is difficult to measure how much crime is underreported, often ‘downcharged,’ by law enforcement since the number of reported crimes reflects the categorizations of police agencies themselves," the researchers wrote. 

 

The FBI said it had no comment on an external report. It noted that participation in the Uniform Crime Reporting program is voluntary. (Ocala Police Department)

"FBI data is taken as gospel truth, when the FBI itself puts a series of footnotes all over their own data," Kennedy said.

In 2019, 89% of municipal police departments – spanning about 97% of the population – submitted crime data to the FBI. To compensate for incomplete data, the FBI will fill in gaps using "inferred" statistics, the report notes. 

However, by 2021, less than 63% of departments spanning across 65% of the population submitted crime data. Several big cities – Los Angeles, New York City, and Chicago – did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year. 

When reached on Monday, the FBI said it had no comment on an external report. It noted that participation in the Uniform Crime Reporting program is voluntary – the UCR program is how the FBI collects crime data from local law enforcement agencies. 

Yet this month, officials in the New Orleans Police Department announced they had under-reported sex crime data that was filed to the FBI in 2021 and 2022. In 2014, a Los Angeles Times investigation found that the Los Angeles Police Department had "systematically downgraded" serious violent crime offenses to minor offenses between 2005 and 2014. 

Researchers added, "There is no evidence that police agencies or reporting authorities consistently or persistently engage in such misreporting or manipulation, but it represents an unknowable data gap between actual crime levels and official statistics."

 

Several big cities, including Los Angeles, did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year.  (Manhattan Beach Police Department)

 

The report places the blame for the high crime rate on soft-on-crime initiatives, which falls in line with several states backpedaling course on so-called soft-on-crime policies. In the last year, Democratic lawmakers in California and New York have begun introducing bills to restore stricter penalties for certain violent crimes.

Jesus fuck Don.  Summarize for once.  No one wants to read a god damn book.  I doubt most got through the first two sentences.

[Mainecat]

Historic!

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

Historic!

The rate of crime under joey? Goddamn right it’s historic. 

[XCR1250]

37 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

 

Which will go down in history as an embarrassment to the US as fast as kamala will go down on whomever to promote herself 

Speaking of weak...are you really that dumb you found that to be clever enough to type it?  

Jesus fuck Don.  Summarize for once.  No one wants to read a god damn book.  I doubt most got through the first two sentences.

Then don't read it.

[MILFMAN]

I wish I could believe it.

Here in Maine last year a man brandished a gun and pointed it at my daughter as he was in the lane next to her in a road rage incident. She got a photo of the car and plate.

She looped around and saw which direction he was heading and then went to the police station. She filled out a report. The man claimed he never left the house that day. The police dropped it. Said it couldn't be proved.

My daughter thought he had pulled in behind her from the solar 'farm' they are building on that road. My wife went to the job site the next day. His car was there. They confirmed he worked yesterday and got out right at the time prior to the incident. They were going to see (supposedly )if he had a firearm in his car, as that is a major violation of their work policy. They wouldn't let her talk to him and told her to leave. No idea if that happened.

My wife then waited for him on his route home and followed him when she saw him. He ended up making her. She kept up with him when he was doing 80 in a 45......

My daughter then went back to the police with the additional information. They put together a photo lineup and she picked him out. He admitted he was driving that day but said nothing happened. They then pressed charge but told us nothing would happen since the courts have been back up since COVID and they don't have the resources to go after cases like this.

He went to court, plead not guilty, and the case was dropped.

This has a major impact on the crime statistics.

 

[Jerry 976]

5 minutes ago, MILFMAN said:

I wish I could believe it.

Here in Maine last year a man brandished a gun and pointed it at my daughter as he was in the lane next to her in a road rage incident. She got a photo of the car and plate.

She looped around and saw which direction he was heading and then went to the police station. She filled out a report. The man claimed he never left the house that day. The police dropped it. Said it couldn't be proved.

My daughter thought he had pulled in behind her from the solar 'farm' they are building on that road. My wife went to the job site the next day. His car was there. They confirmed he worked yesterday and got out right at the time prior to the incident. They were going to see (supposedly )if he had a firearm in his car, as that is a major violation of their work policy. They wouldn't let her talk to him and told her to leave. No idea if that happened.

My wife then waited for him on his route home and followed him when she saw him. He ended up making her. She kept up with him when he was doing 80 in a 45......

My daughter then went back to the police with the additional information. They put together a photo lineup and she picked him out. He admitted he was driving that day but said nothing happened. They then pressed charge but told us nothing would happen since the courts have been back up since COVID and they don't have the resources to go after cases like this.

He went to court, plead not guilty, and the case was dropped.

This has a major impact on the crime statistics.

 

Get a dash camera some are just held on with suction cup and can be easily turn or moved to catch what's going on.

[Jerry 976]

30 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Then don't read it.

Don try to just copy and paste the link to the article from the browser line and not the whole article...... 

The browser line is at the top of the page in the box with the website address you're looking at, like for here www.freedomsledder.com, copy and paste the info on the reply page........ 

Edited July 11 by Jerry 976

[Deephaven]

33 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Then don't read it.

Fuck reading it, I don't even want to have to scroll past it.  There is this thing called a link on the internet.  Normally a quick concise summary from the poster of said link and a link makes a point....

[Deephaven]

Unless of course you are Lloyd.  He can't ever summarize anything, but he isn't smart enough to you are!

[XCR1250]

7 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said:

Don try to just copy and paste the link to the article from the browser line and not the whole article...... 

The browser line is at the top of the page in the box with the website address you're looking at, like for here www.freedomsledder.com, copy and paste the info on the reply page........ 

Ya know I've done that many times, then someone complains that I don't post the whole article.

[Steve753]

2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Ya know I've done that many times, then someone complains that I don't post the whole article.

Well tell Bontz to shove it up his ass then.

[Jerry 976]

1 minute ago, XCR1250 said:

Ya know I've done that many times, then someone complains that I don't post the whole article.

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.......... 

[XCR1250]

Just now, Jerry 976 said:

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.......... 

Guess so.

[Bontz]

8 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Well tell Bontz to shove it up his ass then.

Hey look everyone!!  Butt Plug is capable of making a post without a reference to the mean orange tweeter ... and even without his new found toy, the laughing GIF!!

[Steve753]

26 minutes ago, Bontz said:

Hey look everyone!!  Butt Plug is capable of making a post without a reference to the mean orange tweeter ... and even without his new found toy, the laughing GIF!!

[Deephaven]

53 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Ya know I've done that many times, then someone complains that I don't post the whole article.

Really?  That's funny.  Of course I am mostly ribbing you, but that was fucking long...

[ViperGTS/Z1]

2 hours ago, XCR1250 said:

Then don't read it.

Fully agree...... significantly under reported and a dysfunctional justice system.   2 major problems.

And original post holds no water .....just desperation to find something positive about this admin. going into the election.

[ViperGTS/Z1]

1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

Fuck reading it, I don't even want to have to scroll past it.  There is this thing called a link on the internet.  Normally a quick concise summary from the poster of said link and a link makes a point....

No wonder you're so ignorant......lazy fucks never read beyond the headlines and take what they are told at face value .  Eg. What the media tells them to believe.