f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: It still comes down to basic principle of more oxygen means more fuel which gets more power. Period. So then porting a head is turbocharging??? COOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 I mean if we are gonna just make up our own definitions of shit then fuck yah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I mean if we are gonna just make up our own definitions of shit then fuck yah!!! You started it with this quote and have YET to back it up in ANY way shape or form. Just a bunch of name calling and stupid typing. How about a link from ANYWHERE that says this,,,,,,, Turbocharged has a specific definition and that means it makes a pressure above 1 atmosphere. Until you can, yes made up definitions are allowed as per you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Just now, HSR said: You started it with this quote and have YET to back it up in ANY way shape or form. Just a bunch of name calling and stupid typing. How about a link from ANYWHERE that says this,,,,,,, Turbocharged has a specific definition and that means it makes a pressure above 1 atmosphere. Until you can, yes made up definitions are allowed as per you. My definition is accurate as it’s been understood for 100 years. Your very own definition of turbocharged confirmed that. “A system designed to increase engine power beyond rated output” That is not what a normalized system does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 8 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 8 This thread epitomizes this forum perfectly. Person A: I'm right you are wrong. Person B: No I'm right and you are wrong. Person A: Faggot Person B: No you're a faggot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, f7ben said: “A system designed to increase engine power beyond rated output” So the N/A 850's rated output at 8000ft is 126hp The turbo 850's rated output at 8000ft is 172 hp Thanks for playing. Nothing to back up your made up 100 year old definition regarding 1 atmosphere of boost required. Just more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Ben does a turbo normalized engine have more or less gyroscopic effect than a turbocharged engine or does the correction factor negate that???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 7 minutes ago, HSR said: So the N/A 850's rated output at 8000ft is 126hp The turbo 850's rated output at 8000ft is 172 hp Thanks for playing. Nothing to back up your made up 100 year old definition regarding 1 atmosphere of boost required. Just more They don’t rate power at 8000’ you retarded faggot you are so fucking stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, HSR said: Ben does a turbo normalized engine have more or less gyroscopic effect than a turbocharged engine or does the correction factor negate that???? Depends on the mounting locating , angular momentum and size of turbo!!! Id say yes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, f7ben said: Depends on the mounting locating , angular momentum and size of turbo!!! Id say yes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: They don’t rate power at 8000’ you retarded faggot you are so fucking stupid Tell that to the guys riding at 8000ft where one sled makes almost 40 actual hp more. Sleds don't have a correction factor button, just a turbo. We don't ride dynos Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, HSR said: Tell that to the guys riding at 8000ft where one sled makes almost 40 actual hp more. Sleds don't have a correction factor button, just a turbo. We don't ride dynos Ben. Where is power rated and certified? We aren’t talking about field variables in a discussion of defining terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 28 minutes ago, f7ben said: Where is power rated It's rated at whatever elevation the dyno is at, then they use a correction factor for sea level to make dyno's all on a level standard playing field for comparison sake only. Actual hp in the real world is whatever the sled can produce at whatever elevation they are being operated at. The turbocharged models generally make more at altitude than N/A models. If all dynos were at sea level a correction factor wouldn't be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 35 minutes ago, f7ben said: So then porting a head is turbocharging??? COOL!!!! Performance modifications can be done to enhance air flow, fuel flow, fuel/air mixture, spark management, and combustion efficiency/propagation/compression/valve timing. Regardless of those modifications, unlike with turbocharging, the tuner is still working with the available atmospheric pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, HSR said: It's rated at whatever elevation the dyno is at, then they use a correction factor for sea level to make dyno's all on a level standard playing field for comparison sake only. Actual hp in the real world is whatever the sled can produce at whatever elevation they are being operated at. The turbocharged models generally make more at altitude than N/A models. If all dynos were at sea level a correction factor wouldn't be needed. Nope , power is sae certified on engines You fail again retard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 59 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Performance modifications can be done to enhance air flow, fuel flow, fuel/air mixture, spark management, and combustion efficiency/propagation/compression/valve timing. Regardless of those modifications, unlike with turbocharging, the tuner is still working with the available atmospheric pressure. And in the case of skidoos original turbo they were only working with the original atmosphere also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 the lack of lug flick discussion in this conversation is disappointing to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: the lack of lug flick discussion in this conversation is disappointing to say the least You weren’t even here for that noob , you probably weren’t even a gleam in your daddies eye then. Total noob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: You weren’t even here for that noob , you probably weren’t even a gleam in your daddies eye then. Total noob Poor Ben, lashing out at everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Engines are certified and given a rated power at sea level that is a fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Turbocharging is a system designed to exceed that rated hp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Normalizing is a system designed to maintain it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Can’t be a simpler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Poor Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 3/6/2024 at 6:51 PM, f7ben said: Hey Dumbfuck @HSR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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