Crnr2Crnr Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: you know nothing and are just a hater. Trumps always delivered on all his promises. Hillary is still in jail, this country was out of debt befor eocngress spent all that covid money which Trump didn;t want and his tremendous plan is waiting for introduciton the minute congress gets their bead out of their ass and overturns obamacare which will be Feb 25 at the lastest after a sweep of house, senae and pesidency. America wants to win again like they did from 2017-2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 18 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why vote for either? Sadly there are a ton of stupid Americans. 18 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I wish the last line on the ballot said none of the above The problem with that is none would have the best chance of winning and that'd be awkward. 18 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why isn't he talking about his plans, aside from the 2020 victims retribution plan? he's a lot of talk, a blowhard and he'll literally accomplish nothing... again. I smell woolie coming... Extremely foul stench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 19 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why isn't he talking about his plans, aside from the 2020 victims retribution plan? he's a lot of talk, a blowhard and he'll literally accomplish nothing... again. I smell woolie coming... He knows the plan being so close to Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Who really fucking cares what trump thinks about things like HC and Abortion. It should never be a federal issue, but dipshits want to make it one. Maybe UHC would work, but not when you have 30 million or who knows how many illegals taking advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: Who really fucking cares what trump thinks about things like HC and Abortion. It should never be a federal issue, but dipshits want to make it one. Maybe UHC would work, but not when you have 30 million or who knows how many illegals taking advantage of it. voters likely do... if Obamacare went away do you suddenly believe we'll get lower insurance rates and health care costs? you live in a fantasy world Edited December 6, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Our system is fucked. It's generally cheaper to see a Dr in Germany and pay cash than to pay copays here. That alone ought to tell you where the problem is. I am completely against government run plans of pretty much anything but when they regulate private it can be even worse. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: voters likely do... if Obamacare went away do you suddenly believe we'll get lower insurance rates and health care costs? you live in a fantasy world By design. Everyone knows that you can't get rid of government programs once they start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, racer254 said: By design. Everyone knows that you can't get rid of government programs once they start. Ah, so Trump has no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Ah, so Trump has no plan. Does the ACA suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, racer254 said: Does the ACA suck? Yes, but as you said: 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Everyone knows that you can't get rid of government programs once they start. And then confirmed that: 49 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Trump has no plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Deephaven said: Yes, but as you said: And then confirmed that: So, ACA sucks. Why don't you ask what Bidens plan is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Biden is useless and has no plan. You are the one touting trump as the solution. I've never defended Biden on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Biden is useless and has no plan. You are the one touting trump as the solution. I've never defended Biden on anything. Who do you get your HC through right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Who do you get your HC through right now? United Healthcare, although like most of your posts it's rather irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Deephaven said: United Healthcare, although like most of your posts it's rather irrelevant. Is that through your employer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 How does that have anything to do with trump having no plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Deephaven said: How does that have anything to do with trump having no plan? A lot. You are trying to make it relevant even though you don't even use it. Every conservative knew the aca was a shitshow. Yet dems pushed that unnecessary shit show down our throats and now they want trump to fix it? Edited December 6, 2023 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The ACA is a shit show causing the US Taxpayer more money than it was ever going to save. The dems constant social programs all turning into shit shows. The open border policy, their green energy policies, their NATO policies. All shit shows. Then they try to ask Republicans how to fix the debt their shit show causes. Ask someone who is concerned about the debt and deficit how much the ACA is costing the US Taxpayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 everything is bad, life here is terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, racer254 said: A lot. You are trying to make it relevant even though you don't even use it. Every conservative knew the aca was a shitshow. Yet dems pushed that unnecessary shit show down our throats and now they want trump to fix it? No, not relevant. ACA is shit. What is Trump's plan to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Deephaven said: No, not relevant. ACA is shit. What is Trump's plan to fix it? Who cares, whatever he wants would have to be started as a bill. His plan is irrelevant, and you really don't care except to try and dismantle anything he may propose. It is estimated that 35 million people use it....how many illegals are on it? Here is an idea, stop making it mandatory. Edited December 6, 2023 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 6, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: everything is bad, life here is terrible You elevate racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, racer254 said: Who cares, whatever he wants would have to be started as a bill. His plan is irrelevant, and you really don't care except to try and dismantle anything he may propose. It is estimated that 35 million people use it....how many illegals are on it? Here is an idea, stop making it mandatory. The question is what is Trump's plan. Thread title even. Are you saying he has none? I don't want to dismantle it, but am pretty sure he's got no clue. I'd love to see it fixed. Trump isn't the guy to do that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) There’s only two ways to get healthcare costs down. Stop insuring sick people by bringing back denial of benefits based on preexisting conditions, or forced cost containment on medicine. Edited December 6, 2023 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Deephaven said: Ah, so Trump has no plan. SMH he has the greatest plan but the Rinos and braid dead dems won't let him show it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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