Crnr2Crnr Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 M A D E you Look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crnr2Crnr Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: M A D E you Look IDK if it's on Fox yet... https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/politics/donald-trump-indictment-grand-jury-2020-election/index.html Viper should be along soon to tell us how this will help him even more. Wonder if he'll mail a check for his legal defense this time? We all know Donny won't spend any of his personal billions for it. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-trump-has-spent-40-million-legal-fees-reports-2023-07-30/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted August 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: IDK if it's on Fox yet... https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/politics/donald-trump-indictment-grand-jury-2020-election/index.html Viper should be along soon to tell us how this will help him even more. Wonder if he'll mail a check for his legal defense this time? We all know Donny won't spend any of his personal billions for it. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-trump-has-spent-40-million-legal-fees-reports-2023-07-30/ Yup weaponized election interference......should be good for a couple points in the polls.... people have had enough of the nonsense. Only helping Trump at this point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 2, 2023 All three indictments came the day after revelations about Biden family corruption. Nope nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 hours ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Yup weaponized election interference......should be good for a couple points in the polls.... people have had enough of the nonsense. Only helping Trump at this point.... mailing him a check today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Highmark said: All three indictments came the day after revelations about Biden family corruption. Nope nothing to see here. all aboard the great conspiracy theory train... y'all were lied to.... you poor gullible rubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: all aboard the great conspiracy theory train... y'all were lied to.... you poor gullible rubes. Yeah what am I thinking...they waited 31 months from Jan 6 but drop this after Archer testifies about Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Yeah what am I thinking...they waited 31 months from Jan 6 but drop this after Archer testifies about Joe. Boom. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Yeah what am I thinking...they waited 31 months from Jan 6 but drop this after Archer testifies about Joe. this has been coming for how long now? whatever dude... if Biden's dirty, do him next as far as I'm concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 2, 2023 43 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: this has been coming for how long now? whatever dude... if Biden's dirty, do him next as far as I'm concerned Almost 3 years for those charges? Those indictments they wouldn't have even needed to interview anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Highmark said: Almost 3 years for those charges? Those indictments they wouldn't have even needed to interview anyone. and? maybe try refute the articles of the indictment.... or can't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 2, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and? maybe try refute the articles of the indictment.... or can't you? Thats rich considering You dont even understand it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, EvilBird said: Thats rich considering You dont even understand it don't be so daft... here's a quick summary Guilty Guilty Guilty Guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and? maybe try refute the articles of the indictment.... or can't you? 60 minutes Ray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: 60 minutes Ray. look who chimed in, the Conspiracy King nothing but crickets from you on Trump and his coconspirators? shocking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: look who chimed in, the Conspiracy King nothing but crickets from you on Trump and his coconspirators? shocking... Tds is strong in you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Tds is strong in you. why are the others being called coconspirators? deep state? all part of the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: all aboard the great conspiracy theory train... y'all were lied to.... you poor gullible rubes. You have got to be one of the dumbest fucks to ever grace this site. You easily give MC , Racer and Chinless a run for their money. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, f7ben said: You have got to be one of the dumbest fucks to ever grace this site. You easily give MC , Racer and Chinless a run for their money. for someone who on occasion shows a tidbit of common sense, you do come off as a brain dead twat at times. today's your day... wallow in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: for someone who on occasion shows a tidbit of common sense, you do come off as a brain dead twat at times. today's your day... wallow in it But but but January 6th derrrrddd derrrddd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: But but but January 6th derrrrddd derrrddd you can do better than that not even a kill yourself? who's coconspirator #6 ? and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and? maybe try refute the articles of the indictment.... or can't you? Would it make a difference to you? I can post plenty of legal scholars talking about how wrong these indictments are and not all of them are known as right leaning. I posted a 12 minute video of dems doing the same election denials in 2016. I'm sure you have heard how when the govt doesn't have a solid case they use the old "conspiracy" angle. Many legal scholars including Judge Nap thinks any "conspiracy" law/charge should be unconstitutional. I don't see anything in these indictments that would constitutionally stop Trump from running or becoming President. Doesn't it make you think for a minute why they chose these charges when the goal from the previous impeachments was to make him ineligible. They didn't charge because they didn't have the case for it so they threw up some charges that everyone in the legal system have always known as suspect. https://scholars.org/brief/why-criminal-conspiracy-prosecutions-can-be-unfair-–-and-how-fix-problems#:~:text=Criminal conspiracies are considered especially,become increasingly dedicated to achieving. Specific Problems with Conspiracy Law and Prosecutions Beyond questionable assumptions, conspiracy law raises constitutional questions and suffers from problems of valid evidence. Conspiracy law tests the limits of First Amendment rights, because it allows prosecutors to use normally protected acts such as speech, attendance at meetings, and group ties against a defendant. How can we be sure that people are not prosecuted for unpopular ties or talk? Evidentiary rules can easily violate the core presumption in U.S. law that individuals are liable only for their own actions. Statements and actions may be attributed to an accused co-conspirator who has not directly said or done the criminal things alleged, because courts tend to be quite liberal in admitting evidence of association. In fact, prosecutors often file conspiracy charges in order to be able to use evidence only loosely connected to a particular defendant. Often, it is unclear whether particular defendants in a conspiracy case actually truly intended to commit the crime (or even to conspire with others about the crime). Charges may be pursued against “big talkers” or people who merely express unpopular opinions. Judges often issue instructions to juries that, to the delight of prosecutors, encourage convictions based on things said by defendants that are ambiguous and hard to interpret with certainty. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1549&context=wmborj Just do a bit of research on issues with conspiracy laws and you will see what I mean. Actually some of what we do on here could probably be charged by the govt under conspiracy laws in one way or another. Well, there are basically 5 elements for the crime of Conspiracy. Those elements are: 1. You must have 2 or more persons who 2. Intentionally 3. make an agreement 4. to violate federal law or defraud the United states, and then 5. Commit some overt act in furtherance of the agreement. Based on these elements, we know that the crime of Conspiracy is a specific- intent crime. In other words Michelle, the government must prove that these 2 or more persons intentionally entered into an agreement to commit some criminal offense. This means that in proving that there are two (2) or more person involved, undercover officers and confidential informants would not count because they would not have the requisite criminal intent. Also, the overt act done in furtherance of the agreement must occur AFTER the agreement has been reached. Edited August 3, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) On 8/1/2023 at 10:24 PM, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Yup weaponized election interference......should be good for a couple points in the polls.... people have had enough of the nonsense. Only helping Trump at this point.... What fuckin bullshit. Edited August 3, 2023 by Mainecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted August 4, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mainecat said: What fuckin bullshit. And what did they testify.?.... You actually think Steven Miller threw Trump under the bus... are you kidding me? Edited August 4, 2023 by ViperGTS/Z1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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