Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 7, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 7, 2023 A proposed rule unveiled by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on April 5 could considerably tighten the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (MATS) for power plants, with specific repercussions for coal- and oil-fired generation. https://www.powermag.com/epa-moves-to-significantly-tighten-mercury-and-air-toxics-standards/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Ah yes cripple the electric industry even more. Make energy as expensive as possible, that way the underlings won't be so free. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 7, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Ah yes cripple the electric industry even more. Make energy as expensive as possible, that way the underlings won't be so free. Lola like an overall investment: from the link: Overall, the EPA projects industrywide compliance costs for the proposed rule of $230 million to $330 million. Net public health benefits over the EPA’s 10-year analysis period, meanwhile, are projected at between $1.2 billion to $1.9 billion. The EPA, however, is requesting public comment on all aspects of the proposed rule, including the evaluation of the costs and efficacy of control option assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, BOHICA said: A proposed rule unveiled by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on April 5 could considerably tighten the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (MATS) for power plants, with specific repercussions for coal- and oil-fired generation. https://www.powermag.com/epa-moves-to-significantly-tighten-mercury-and-air-toxics-standards/ Fuck the lower class just a bit more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Lola like an overall investment: from the link: Overall, the EPA projects industrywide compliance costs for the proposed rule of $230 million to $330 million. Net public health benefits over the EPA’s 10-year analysis period, meanwhile, are projected at between $1.2 billion to $1.9 billion. The EPA, however, is requesting public comment on all aspects of the proposed rule, including the evaluation of the costs and efficacy of control option assumptions. They have no fucking clue what the health benefits will be...they are blowing smoke up that gaping hole you call an ass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 7, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, SkisNH said: Fuck the lower class just a bit more... You and @racer254 - so transparent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 7, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, SkisNH said: They have no fucking clue what the health benefits will be...they are blowing smoke up that gaping hole you call an ass. Sure they do. But you’re ignorant, dumb, and so t believe in science so you can STFU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Sure they do. But you’re ignorant, dumb, and so t believe in science so you can STFU You likely think the world will end shortly...if Obama thought the seas would rise 20 feet would he have bought a mansion right on the ocean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 7, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, SkisNH said: You likely think the world will end shortly...if Obama thought the seas would rise 20 feet would he have bought a mansion right on the ocean? Not at all. But staying ignorant is how you and most conservative MAGAt’s exist. Science FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Not at all. But staying ignorant is how you and most conservative MAGAt’s exist. Science FTW It's modeling....they don't actually know. Just like GW Garbage in garbage out... They do this to push the climate agenda forward. Edited April 7, 2023 by SkisNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 8, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: Fuck the lower class just a bit more... How? They buy their electricity from a utility and if the utility has a large renewable portfolio they can offer electricity the cheapest. Fossil fuel just behind nuclear is the most expensive way to generate power. plus the low class have a lot of programs available to them to help pay their energy bills. Edited April 8, 2023 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, BOHICA said: How? They buy their electricity from a utility and if the utility has a large renewable portfolio they can offer electricity the cheapest. Fossil fuel just behind nuclear is the most expensive way to generate power. plus the low class have a lot of programs available to them to help pay their energy bills. So we raise the price of energy because we offline cheap plentiful sources...then subsidize the marginalized citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Countries that have gone "green" have high energy prices. France who embraced nuclear has faired much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 8, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted April 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, SkisNH said: So we raise the price of energy because we offline cheap plentiful sources...then subsidize the marginalized citizens. It’s common knowledge wind and solar are the cheapest form of electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 If the Neanderthals of this country had their way we’d still be using leaded gasoline and R12. Backwards fucks. Always a reason to halt progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doug said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 8, 2023 9 hours ago, spin_dry said: If the Neanderthals of this country had their way we’d still be using leaded gasoline and R12. Backwards fucks. Always a reason to halt progress. Still be using horse and buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: It’s common knowledge wind and solar are the cheapest form of electricity. It's also common knowledge that people like to use electricity when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing.... https://youtu.be/N-yALPEpV4w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: It’s common knowledge wind and solar are the cheapest form of electricity. only if it's implementation is subsidized to the hilt. If it's the cheapest way to produce it, why does it keep going up, and making everyday goods that the lower middle class needs on a daily basis so unaffordable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 11 hours ago, SkisNH said: Countries that have gone "green" have high energy prices. France who embraced nuclear has faired much better. we're sandwiched between Poland and Kenya for cost... https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 we're the biggest producer of natural gas... https://www.worldometers.info/gas/gas-production-by-country/ so we sell it... https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-be-worlds-biggest-lng-exporter-2022-2021-12-21/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: we're the biggest producer of natural gas... https://www.worldometers.info/gas/gas-production-by-country/ so we sell it... https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-be-worlds-biggest-lng-exporter-2022-2021-12-21/ Natural gas was considered green energy until they found out we have a shit ton of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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