Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bernie campaigned we should be more like them. Country has the largest oil reserves in the world yet its people are starving and inflation reached 800% in January. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mother-all-marches-turns-violent-venezuela-n748396 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not defending socialism by any means, but I would argue that corruption and poor governance is the reason for their failings. That and the Obama admin driving oil prices into the dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Not defending socialism by any means, but I would argue that corruption and poor governance is the reason for their failings. That and the Obama admin driving oil prices into the dirt. Nature of the beast. Socialism is good for the socialist but not the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The USA has caused the issues there. Unless you allow US corps to rob you of your resources they will put sanctions on you. Obumba even declared they are a national security threat. This is what happens when a poor country has resources and stands up to the bully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I saw a quick tidbit today that said Bernie was the most popular politician in America. Pence was second, Trump third, Hillary fourth or fifth I think...there was one other there. Not sure what the fuck this has to do with anything...just thought it was weird to see Bernie still has a following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Not sure what the fuck this has to do with anything...just thought it was weird to see Bernie still has a following. guess people love a sell out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I saw a quick tidbit today that said Bernie was the most popular politician in America. Pence was second, Trump third, Hillary fourth or fifth I think...there was one other there. Not sure what the fuck this has to do with anything...just thought it was weird to see Bernie still has a following. Bernie is a fucking loon. He would bankrupt the country. not to mention how cheaply shillery was able to buy him off. I cannot believe idiots still support the old coot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nature of the beast. Socialism is good for the socialist but not the masses. They nationalized their oil reserves to help the people of the country of which before that benefited nothing living in one of the most oil rich countries in the world. The reason they are failing isn't because of that, it's because the intl banks are playing games with currency and commodity manipulation like they do with the other oil rich countries who nationalized their oil. They want to control ALL of the world's oil. Plain and simple. How much better off do you think the country would be if they gave the oil reserves back to private corps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Anler said: They nationalized their oil reserves to help the people of the country of which before that benefited nothing living in one of the most oil rich countries in the world. The reason they are failing isn't because of that, it's because the intl banks are playing games with currency and commodity manipulation like they do with the other oil rich countries who nationalized their oil. They want to control ALL of the world's oil. Plain and simple. How much better off do you think the country would be if they gave the oil reserves back to private corps? Few americans understand the play. it is not their fault for years they were told chavez is a terrorist. The fact is, these people are being fucked over because they refuse to give away their oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Anler said: They nationalized their oil reserves to help the people of the country of which before that benefited nothing living in one of the most oil rich countries in the world. The reason they are failing isn't because of that, it's because the intl banks are playing games with currency and commodity manipulation like they do with the other oil rich countries who nationalized their oil. They want to control ALL of the world's oil. Plain and simple. How much better off do you think the country would be if they gave the oil reserves back to private corps? It's a corrupt shithole, the dictator won't recognize the elected government let them sit in congress and govern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Anler said: They nationalized their oil reserves to help the people of the country of which before that benefited nothing living in one of the most oil rich countries in the world. The reason they are failing isn't because of that, it's because the intl banks are playing games with currency and commodity manipulation like they do with the other oil rich countries who nationalized their oil. They want to control ALL of the world's oil. Plain and simple. How much better off do you think the country would be if they gave the oil reserves back to private corps? A lot better. When people don't have hope of bettering themselves unless the govt lets them this is what happens. Socialism breeds corruption. Even liberal publications like the New Yorker and HuffPo get it. Rigged election, a constantly changing "constitution" and no voice of the people. Keep trying to blame the world for a system of govt that doesn't work, especially when you have one national means of economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 What would Jesus do............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: What would Jesus do............... Why is it conservative are so much more generous when it comes to charitable giving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: A lot better. When people don't have hope of bettering themselves unless the govt lets them this is what happens. Socialism breeds corruption. Even liberal publications like the New Yorker and HuffPo get it. Rigged election, a constantly changing "constitution" and no voice of the people. Keep trying to blame the world for a system of govt that doesn't work, especially when you have one national means of economy. They were worse before. Notice a common theme here? Oil. The banks want it. All of it. You aren't hearing about how socialism is pushing the white no oil countries of Europe over the edge. And we have more debt than anyone. Capitalism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Why is it conservative are so much more generous when it comes to charitable giving? For instance? I just posted a bunch of shit Republicans were bashing the pope over. That meme is spot on. Republicans are NOT christians, they invent their own religion and sell it to stupid fucks. Edited April 19, 2017 by Anler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: They were worse before. Notice a common theme here? Oil. The banks want it. All of it. You aren't hearing about how socialism is pushing the white no oil countries of Europe over the edge. And we have more debt than anyone. Capitalism! Seems to me some countries do pretty good selling their oil. You don't think any of their problems stem from socialism and the corruption it breeds? Its all the banks and oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Anler said: For instance? I just posted a bunch of shit Republicans were bashing the pope over. That meme is spot on. Republicans are NOT christians, they invent their own religion and sell it to stupid fucks. http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/who_gives_most_to_charity/ https://downtrend.com/robertgehl/republicans-most-generous-people-in-the-world-democrats-not-so-much I love the theory that big govt = charitable giving. Edited April 19, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Seems to me some countries do pretty good selling their oil. You don't think any of their problems stem from socialism and the corruption it breeds? Its all the banks and oil. Yeah countries with private mineral rights and trade in petro dollars. The ones who nationalized it are on our enemies list. Iraq, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Libya... What do you think our problems stem from? Not even top 10 in healthcare or education and 20 trillion in debt? You know what they say about throwing stones in glass houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/who_gives_most_to_charity/ All Republicans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Anler said: All Republicans? Support for high taxes and govt somehow = charitable giving and caring to you idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/who_gives_most_to_charity/ https://downtrend.com/robertgehl/republicans-most-generous-people-in-the-world-democrats-not-so-much I love the theory that big govt = charitable giving. I don't support big govt, again that is Republicans. I support sensible govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Support for high taxes and govt somehow = charitable giving and caring to you idiots. Where did I support high taxes, genius? I'll wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Anler said: I don't support big govt, again that is Republicans. I support sensible govt. I'm not a Republican. Never have been. I'm a constitutionalist first, conservative second. I vote for those that closely match those ideals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 19, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Where did I support high taxes, genius? I'll wait. Yes or no you agree with Milage's meme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yes or no you agree with Milage's meme? That shit looks conspicuously like one of Moto's memes. Maybe Vinney is converting? Not sure Moto wants him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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