Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I'm not a Republican. Never have been. I'm a constitutionalist first, conservative second. I vote for those that closely match those ideals. I don't think you are a conservative. We WERE talking about Venezuela. You think the assets that like in the ground of a country should belong to individuals and not the people of that country. Which leaves individuals to benefit from something they did not make and the rest of the people to pay the bills. Seems like the oil could pay alot of bills and keep taxes low. And you look at an article and go "there you have it, socialism". You never looked at where things were before that and what led to it. Like I said, we are allegedly a capitalist country yet we aren't best in anything and have the most debt. But the banks don't allow our economy to collapse and cause excessive inflation and devalue our currency. They do that to countries in which THEY want to own their resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Anler said: I don't think you are a conservative. We WERE talking about Venezuela. You think the assets that like in the ground of a country should belong to individuals and not the people of that country. Which leaves individuals to benefit from something they did not make and the rest of the people to pay the bills. Seems like the oil could pay alot of bills and keep taxes low. And you look at an article and go "there you have it, socialism". You never looked at where things were before that and what led to it. Like I said, we are allegedly a capitalist country yet we aren't best in anything and have the most debt. But the banks don't allow our economy to collapse and cause excessive inflation and devalue our currency. They do that to countries in which THEY want to own their resources. Holy shit is that moto or Anler? Seems to me you are doing pretty well in this awful country. Would you prefer us nationalize all our energy Maxine? I think people who own land should own the resources under it. If I find NG or anything else valuable in the land I worked hard to pay for then its mine....not fucking yours. I think the deal the oil companies have with the federal govt is a good deal for both American workers and the taxpayers. Explain exactly how I'm not a Conservative since you know me so well. Edited April 20, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yes or no you agree with Milage's meme? That meme is spot on! When in the history of this country did "conservatives" house and feed the poor without govt? The welfare laws were in response to masses of homeless people pissing and shitting in the street and making impromptu shanty towns in industrial cities all over the country. Then the creation of water and sewage treatment, public education, police, fire, public roads, communications, electric grid, etc... You know, SOCIALISM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Holy shit is that moto or Anler? Seems to me you are doing pretty well in this awful country. Would you prefer us nationalize all our energy Maxine? I think people who own land should own the resources under it. If I find NG or anything else valuable in the land I worked hard to pay for then its mine....not fucking yours. I think the deal the oil companies have with the federal govt is a good deal for both American workers and the taxpayers. Explain exactly how I'm not a Conservative since you know me so well. You are under the impression that if you own land you own what's under it... You don't. Maxine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: That meme is spot on! When in the history of this country did "conservatives" house and feed the poor without govt? The welfare laws were in response to masses of homeless people pissing and shitting in the street and making impromptu shanty towns in industrial cities all over the country. Then the creation of water and sewage treatment, public education, police, fire, public roads, communications, electric grid, etc... You know, SOCIALISM! I was spot on. Dude do some research on the history of hospitals. You are honestly losing it moto....I mean Anler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Anler said: You are under the impression that if you own land you own what's under it... You don't. Maxine! You don't? Hmmm seems to me like lots of people do well with NG or Oil leases on their own lands. I have personally met some when hunting ND. I don't recall getting a bill for retrieving water from a 180' deep well on my property you stupid shit. I could have whet 400' to the Aquifer and still wouldn't be charged for using it even though it covers a huge area. Sounds like its part mine to me. Damn you are a fool. I really have lost a lot of respect for you today. Not that I had much to begin with. Edited April 20, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Explain exactly how I'm not a Conservative since you know me so well. Easy, real conservatives don't pontificate how other countries should govern themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: You don't? Hmmm seems to me like lots of people do well with NG or Oil leases on their own lands. I have personally met some when hunting ND. If they have mineral rights. Most don't. And that doesn't just go for oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: If they have mineral rights. Most don't. And that doesn't just go for oil. I have mineral rights to my ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anler said: Easy, real conservatives don't pontificate how other countries should govern themselves. Says who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: I have mineral rights to my ground. http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2015/07/if-i-find-oil-on-my-land-is-it-mine.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Anler said: http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2015/07/if-i-find-oil-on-my-land-is-it-mine.html Dude it was right on my paperwork. Are you claiming I don't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Says who? Idk... Do you think Ron Paul is a conservative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Anler said: If THEY have mineral rights. Most don't. And that doesn't just go for oil. Just now, Highmark said: Dude it was right on my paperwork. Are you claiming I don't know? Good for you. Now read what I wrote and stop putting words in my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Idk... Do you think Ron Paul is a conservative? A fiscal conservative and a constitutionalist. Just because I think a countries problems are rooted in its govt structure doesn't mean I think we should force change upon them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Keep telling us how you are a conservative in your thread about Venezuela... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anler said: Keep telling us how you are a conservative in your thread about Venezuela... You think Ron Paul is a socialist? Nice try at that direction. http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/venezuela-end-stage-socialism Edited April 20, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Nigga pleeze. Stop putting words in my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Nigga pleeze. Stop putting words in my mouth. Is that your South side coming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Dude, you didn't even watch the video you posted. It is exactly what I said happened. Ignorance is not an admirable quality... Falling oil prices, currency manipulation and excessive inflation. Those are outside forces put upon them to cause economic hardship. And that has nothing to do with socialism. Bravo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Why is it conservative are so much more generous when it comes to charitable giving? I have found that in life motherfuckers who have fishhooks in there pockets have fishhooks regardless of political affiliation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Also note that the commodity manipulation wasn't just for Venezuela. Russia, Iran, Libya all have nationalized oil. Funny how 10 years ago we had "peak oil" and $200 a barrel. Now plenty of oil and falling commodity prices. Who do you think controls that? What about currency manipulation and inflation? Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Dude, you didn't even watch the video you posted. It is exactly what I said happened. Ignorance is not an admirable quality... Falling oil prices, currency manipulation and excessive inflation. Those are outside forces put upon them to cause economic hardship. And that has nothing to do with socialism. Bravo... Yes I did and the page talks about the failures of Socialism and basically a dictatorship. The reality of Socialism needs to constantly be refreshed in people's minds, lest even more fall prey to the suffering that it breeds: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 20, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: I have found that in life motherfuckers who have fishhooks in there pockets have fishhooks regardless of political affiliation. Actually some of the poorest states give the most. I can find the data showing income isn't always the earmark for charitable giving percentages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Yes I did and the page talks about the failures of Socialism and basically a dictatorship. The reality of Socialism needs to constantly be refreshed in people's minds, lest even more fall prey to the suffering that it breeds: It's not a dictatorship you stupid fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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