racer254 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Did you know: CAT994A. FRONT END LOADER. It burns approximately 1,000 litres of Diesel Fossil fuel in 12 hours and moves approximately 250 tonnes of dirt to extract the materials needed to make ONE Tesla battery. To make each battery, you need to treat the following: - 12 tons of brine for lithium, - 15 tons of ore for cobalt - 3 tons of ore for nickel, - 12 tons of ore for copper And move 250 tons of the earth's crust. For just - one - battery, which has about: - 12 kg of lithium - 30 kg of nickel - 22 kg of manganese - 15 kg of cobalt - 100 kg of copper - 200 kg of aluminium, steel and plastic And people still believe in "zero emissions" when they drive their electric cars... ???? and we didn’t mention recycling. ?? It's going to be fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 ooops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, racer254 said: Did you know: CAT994A. FRONT END LOADER. It burns approximately 1,000 litres of Diesel Fossil fuel in 12 hours and moves approximately 250 tonnes of dirt to extract the materials needed to make ONE Tesla battery. To make each battery, you need to treat the following: - 12 tons of brine for lithium, - 15 tons of ore for cobalt - 3 tons of ore for nickel, - 12 tons of ore for copper And move 250 tons of the earth's crust. For just - one - battery, which has about: - 12 kg of lithium - 30 kg of nickel - 22 kg of manganese - 15 kg of cobalt - 100 kg of copper - 200 kg of aluminium, steel and plastic And people still believe in "zero emissions" when they drive their electric cars... ???? and we didn’t mention recycling. ?? It's going to be fine So about 5 bucket loads of that loader to make 1 battery? Not bad especially since every single material harvested for the battery is recycled and recovered to be used again infinite times. Pretty cool. Edited December 21, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Poor Elon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: So about 5 bucket loads of that loader to make 1 battery? Not bad especially since every single material harvested for the battery is recycled and recovered to be used again infinite times. Pretty cool. You obviously know fuck all about equipment. You keep to your narrative, if it makes you feel good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, awful knawful said: You obviously know fuck all about equipment. You keep to your narrative, if it makes you feel good. So that loader can’t move 250 tons of earth in 5 buckets loads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So that loader can’t move 250 tons of earth in 5 buckets loads? So you're concerned for the environment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: So about 5 bucket loads of that loader to make 1 battery? Not bad especially since every single material harvested for the battery is recycled and recovered to be used again infinite times. Pretty cool. Not sure what the end game is? I thought it was to protect the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So you're concerned for the environment? Isnt that loader capable of handling 40-50 tons of earth per bucket? Edited December 21, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, racer254 said: Not sure what the end game is? I thought it was to protect the environment. The environments fine and will always be as it has for millions of years. The earth will say fuck it one day and people will be gone, just like the dinosaurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, BOHICA said: Isnt that loader capable to handle 40-50 tons of earth per bucket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: The environments fine and will always be as it has for millions of years. The earth will say fuck it one day and people will be gone, just like the dinosaurs. I agree. We are minuscule in the scheme of things and to think that humans will change that is vanity at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, racer254 said: I agree. We are minuscule in the scheme of things and to think that humans will change that is vanity at a high level. I've said it many times. Take the money to be made away from climate change, climate change will be gone as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Does that mean the whole chain email is a whoosh? capacity of this loader is an easily found metric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 Still big wooosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Sooner or later people will wake up and the EV garbage will end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Still big wooosh So you don’t know how many buckets it takes to get to 250 tons of earth with that loader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So you don’t know how many buckets it takes to get to 250 tons of earth with that loader? Depends on moisture content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Depends on moisture content. Isn’t 250 tons 250 tons wether it be water or sand or cotton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, BOHICA said: Isn’t 250 tons 250 tons wether it be water or sand or cotton? yes, but you asked how many buckets, cotton would take 1000's, sand not so many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: yes, but you asked how many buckets, cotton would take 1000's, sand not so many. So about 5 or so bucket loads of earth to equal 250 ton in a earth mine. but now that we are at that point of around bucket of variance in 250 tons… How many of the listed items from the chain email materials are co harvested from the same mine materials? For example Copper and nickel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, racer254 said: I agree. We are minuscule in the scheme of things and to think that humans will change that is vanity at a high level. Numerous examples of humans making areas uninhabitable. My god you’re an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Numerous examples of humans making areas uninhabitable. My god you’re an idiot. Nothing like what the earth itself is capable of doing. A good week and a few bulldozers, Detroit could easily be habitable again. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: So that loader can’t move 250 tons of earth in 5 buckets loads? No, not medium to heavy digging in a high lift configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, BOHICA said: So about 5 or so bucket loads of earth to equal 250 ton in a earth mine. but now that we are at that point of around bucket of variance in 250 tons… How many of the listed items from the chain email materials are co harvested from the same mine materials? For example Copper and nickel. Move the goal posts much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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