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9 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Again....they set the definition to fit their agenda when it truly isn't zero emissions in order to operate.  At least not yet and not for a LONG time into the future.  

Definition for ZEV hasn’t changed since it’s inception….

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4 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Definition for ZEV hasn’t changed since it’s inception….

Of course....who made the definition?  :lol:  

You can honestly say its done with no intent of fooling the ave consumer into thinking they don't produce ANY CO2 to run?

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31 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

They are zero emissions vehicles by definition.  Haven’t seen anybody ever claim carbon neutral.  They just emit a lot less pollutants over the average lifespan of a vehicle in the US

 

A zero-emission vehicle, or ZEV, is a vehicle that does not emit exhaust gas or other pollutants from the onboard source of power.[1][2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle

Almost like you would have to drive to the moon and back a bunch of times, huh?

OMG... :lol:

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9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Once an ev catches fire there's no stopping it.

How many people die from carbon monoxide from a ice?  Grasp much.

 

Who said anything about dying? Lots of people run their cars in their attached garages to warm up and the fumes come in the house.

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35 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

That's not true whatsoever. They have their place in the market. If they can improve range and price point more and more people will consider them.

Let me buy a car that does 1/10 of what my current car can do for 2x the amount.

 

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2 minutes ago, Snake said:

Almost like you would have to drive to the moon and back a bunch of times, huh?

OMG... :lol:

You're such a simpleton, that if Trump endorsed EVs you'd be all for them.

:bc:

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13 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Once an ev catches fire there's no stopping it.

How many people die from carbon monoxide from a ice?  Grasp much.

 

How many people have died as a result of EV fires…. I’m not talking wrecks.  But EV just sitting there and starting on fire.

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You're such a simpleton, that if Trump endorsed EVs you'd be all for them.

:bc:

And the TDS comes in where witty repertoire fails... :lol:

Sometimes it's best to just say nothing... :bc:

Just now, BOHICA said:

obviously if you have an imaginary carbon sequester device on your EV.

 

But... but... but....

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Volvo electric becomes cleaner then Volvo ICE at the worst case scenario at 68,000 miles if the EV version is coal powered.

 

after that the ICE becomes more polluting.

 

When using the average global energy supply, a Volvo C40 Recharge will need to cover 68,300 miles (109,918 km) before it breaks even with the ICE XC40 — in this scenario, that’s over half of the car’s lifetime. However, over that lifespan, the EV will account for 15 percent fewer overall emissions than the ICE vehicle.

Running the C40 on the EU28 electricity scenario doubles the overall reduction in emissions to 30 percent and reduces the breakeven point to 48,000 miles (77,248 km). And if you’re able to charge your C40 on renewable energy alone, the carbon footprint of the EV is half that of the ICE, breaking even in just over 30,000 miles (48,280 km).

 

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/volvo-says-manufacturing-an-electric-car-generates-70-percent-more-emissions-than-its-petrol-equivalent/amp/

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6 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

How many people have died as a result of EV fires…. I’m not talking wrecks.  But EV just sitting there and starting on fire.

Not many but there aren't that many out there now.  It will get much much worse.

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Just now, ArcticCrusher said:

Not many but there aren't that many out there now.  It will get much much worse.

How many?  


19 Chevy Bolts in total caught fire over the years with 0 deaths.  And the Chevy bolt made up the majority of EV fires.

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