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Zambroski Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 All the numbers and divisive statistics are there for sure. But half the nation and half the world will always see him as one of the best. Again, weak minds prefer weak leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: All the numbers and divisive statistics are there for sure. But half the nation and half the world will always see him as one of the best. Again, weak minds prefer weak leadership. The left sees you as weak.....does anyone really win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dave said: The left sees you as weak.....does anyone really win? The left sees me and people like me as a threat to their agenda. It depends on what the definition of "win" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 12 hours ago, Momorider said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 12 hours ago, Momorider said: Worst POTUS? What metrics do we measure that by? I can't think of one that would point to Obama as the worst. Great or good POTUS? You can make the arguement that he was not that depending on how you measure success, but this idea that he was the "worst" or even terrible seems pretty far fetched. He was elected to do certain things. He did that. No different than Trump being elected to reverse those and do those. That hardly makes either the "worst". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Worst POTUS? What metrics do we measure that by? I can't think of one that would point to Obama as the worst. Great or good POTUS? You can make the arguement that he was not that depending on how you measure success, but this idea that he was the "worst" or even terrible seems pretty far fetched. He was elected to do certain things. He did that. No different than Trump being elected to reverse those and do those. That hardly makes either the "worst". Well, I think the argument can be made that he is the worst in modern history based on economic numbers (adjusted for cycle downturn) and his overall leadership and unification of the American citizens as a whole. Leaders DO NOT DIVIDE. Any argument that any unification after his eight is stronger than before his presidency is been pretty significantly debunked. Now, in a sort of "his defense", the liberal agenda started taking a hard turn and before he knew it he was wrapped up in it. His inability to slow that tide of aggressive agenda turned into his indifference as he realized he became the "King" (poster child) for it. Again, at the cost of doing anything to try and unify America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 19, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted March 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Momorider said: The jury will be out on this question for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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