Booster shots yay or nay

[Dieseltech]

Just curious how many people are good to continuing booster shots and how many are done with it . Phizer ceo says moving forward we should be getting  annual  booster shot and flu shot should be  incorporated into it.  Most of the people i work with claim they are done but that may not be a good measure of the majority of people. 

Edited March 28, 2022 by Dieseltech

[1trailmaker]

I have never had a flu shot, I got 2 covid shots not sure about the booster yet as I am considered fully vaccinated 

 

 I doubt it will be a yearly thing for me, but that might change as we see what the future has in store for us

 

 

[smokin george]

Fk that shit. Bad enough we had to get vaxxed in the first place with some unknown shit. 

[1trailmaker]

13 minutes ago, smokin george said:

Fk that shit. Bad enough we had to get vaxxed in the first place with some unknown shit. 

? what is unknown?  billions of shots given and you are still going on about trails  mRNA has been around for decades 

 

What is you knowledge of all vaccines, are you so versed you know what is in everyone of them?   I think not

 

 

[Dieseltech]

I don't care which side of the fence you are on . I feel everyone should be free to choose for themselves. I asked the question only to try and get an idea how the majority feels about this . Hope it does not turn into a bash fest

[smokin george]

59 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

? what is unknown?  billions of shots given and you are still going on about trails  mRNA has been around for decades 

 

What is you knowledge of all vaccines, are you so versed you know what is in everyone of them?   I think not

 

 

What the fuck are you rambling on about now fucknuts! I never said I was an expert like yourself and quit taking things out of context. Go back to the hole you crawled out of or better still go suck Trudeaus dick you liberal bag licker!

[ArcticCrusher]

Does it stop infection? No

Does it stop the spread? No

What is a booster gonna do to an already mutated virus?  Nothing

 

Here is an article that goes back to 2014 that talks about ebola and upcoming virus's, ie Covid.  From the article, ignorance and fear are the true dangers.  Even back then it was know should a Coronavirus hit us it would be futile to try and stop it since it utilizes animal reservoirs.

The vax is useless, along with masking, distancing etc etc. 

 

https://time.com/3069876/ebola-outbreak-truth/

 

 

It is vital that our friends not die in vain. Rather than the fog of misinformation that currently surrounds this horrific outbreak, the world must understand Ebola for what it really is. The fear and ignorance that often surround it serve no one; only real knowledge and understanding will permit us to prevail. While devastating in its impact, the real enemy is not the Ebola virus or the animals from which it emerges. Whether on a local level in regions affected by the outbreak, or through the international media, ignorance and fear are our true adversaries.

While viruses like Ebola emerge relatively infrequently, we know a great deal about them. Ebola and the other hemorrhagic fever viruses like it kill dramatically and often painfully. As demonstrated through the current outbreak, they can have a devastating impact on local communities and can harm the countries and regions where they exist. Nevertheless, they definitely do not move like a common cold or have the potential to spread around the world igniting a global pandemic that will kill millions. Everything we know about Ebola suggests that it spreads in a limited number of well-defined ways, such as the intensive care of sick patients and the mortuary preparation of those that have succumbed to the disease. With circumscribed capacity to spread along with distinct, identifiable symptoms, this virus doesn’t have pandemic potential.

Ignorance and hysteria around this virus inflame its spread and thwart the development of systems that have the potential to stop it. Among the incredible challenges in the response to the current outbreak include misinformation and rumor. Lack of common knowledge about how Ebola spreads is causing some of the people in affected regions at greatest risk to shun health authorities and to avoid reporting the disease. Silence, denial and fear kill. Instead of permitting hard-working Ministries of Health to identify affected regions and anticipate future spread, they fan the flames.

But a lack of understanding in afflicted regions is not the only problem. The desire of the international media to attract viewers has led some careless journalists to focus almost exclusively on the fear-invoking mode of death from the disease. While it may increase their ratings, it lets the real culprits off the hook. Limited health infrastructure, insufficient numbers of trained health workers, too few fully equipped labs, and not enough education and preventative epidemiology are the sad realities that push this scourge on. The image of a victim coughing up blood creates stigma instead of engaging international viewers with the true and preventable human tragedy in these communities. It also distracts from one of the more disturbing facts associated with this outbreak, which is how wealthy communities feel content to live in a world where society spends more on eliminating wrinkles than with basic health infrastructure that could, among many other things, help quench an outbreak like the one we’re currently experience in West Africa.

 

While Ebola virus won’t be the next global Andromeda strain, there are viruses out there that could be. Coronaviruses (like SARS) and influenzaviruses (like the H1N1 virus of 1918) for example, show that some viruses truly can spread around the world in ways that will blindside and impact our entire planet. It is notable that a novel coronavirus, the Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and a novel influenzavirus, the H7N9 virus, receive very little attention from the international media. Perhaps as importantly, there are millions of still unidentified viruses in animal reservoirs, among which, almost certainly is a virus that we’d have no capacity to understand or stop were it to suddenly emerge today.

Our world is increasingly susceptible to potentially devastating epidemics. And the notion that all of them are the same is absurd. We need to understand the diversity of the viruses in nature. We need to double down on global activities that track new agents from their sources. We need to ensure that health infrastructure in emerging disease hotspots, which include some of the poorest regions of the world, have adequate capacity for surveillance and early detection. Capacity building and training aren’t sexy activities and they won’t make headlines, but they will stop the events that lead to the headlines.

[ArcticCrusher]

There's a good reason they are stopping vax vs unvaxxed data.  

 

 

[oldslowsledder]

Wife and I got our two shot's, didn't want them, but felt we had no choice to try and bring back some normality of life.

 

Neither of us will be getting any further jabs unless they pin us to the ground and inject them

[Deephaven]

19 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

There's a good reason they are stopping vax vs unvaxxed data.  

 

Yes, it is called a new variant.  

 

As for the topic at hand before numbnuts tries to derail it with propaganda nonsense...I haven't gotten a shot and won't get a booster for now.  If there is another mutation that changes the parameters then perhaps I would.  Had corona, but am generally healthy and don't expect it to be bad if I get it again.  Unlike the dipshits that are proposing the pandemic is driven by the vax I don't see any reason to be scared by it.  It can surely be a good thing but with the current variant it is pointless.

[ArcticCrusher]

8 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Yes, it is called a new variant.  

 

As for the topic at hand before numbnuts tries to derail it with propaganda nonsense...I haven't gotten a shot and won't get a booster for now.  If there is another mutation that changes the parameters then perhaps I would.  Had corona, but am generally healthy and don't expect it to be bad if I get it again.  Unlike the dipshits that are proposing the pandemic is driven by the vax I don't see any reason to be scared by it.  It can surely be a good thing but with the current variant it is pointless.

If you had a basic understanding of Coronaviruses or any with an animal reservoir, you would realize its pointless to try and stop it.  Its already mutated away from any vax you are trying to work on and will create even more variants.

So go and live your life.

[Dieseltech]

https://khn.org/news/article/pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-yearly-covid-shots/

[ArcticCrusher]

Here is a chart of flu deaths from 1959 to 2016.  We went from 12 million flu shots in 1980 to almost 200 million in 2020.

The net result?

We eradicated the flu, congrats. 

Kidding, the vaccine and further uptake made zero difference.  Just like this one, except the adverse side effects are deadly.  

 

 

[Dieseltech]

The FDA advisory committee voted overwhelmingly against a third dose for everyone age 16 and older in September last year because the experts felt there wasn't enough data to support such a decision. Two months later, the FDA authorized Moderna and Pfizer boosters for all adults without holding an advisory committee meeting, and then lowered eligibility in December and January to include everyone 12 and older.

[Dieseltech]

[1trailmaker]

we don't follow FDA in Canada  WE have our own very different system....

 

[Renegade X]

Anyone that thinks this vaccine is the way out of this is a complete idiot.

[Dieseltech]

4 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

we don't follow FDA in Canada  WE have our own very different system....

 

I am aware .. just posted as it is interesting information regarding the subject being discussed 

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[ArcticCrusher]

31 minutes ago, Dieseltech said:

The FDA advisory committee voted overwhelmingly against a third dose for everyone age 16 and older in September last year because the experts felt there wasn't enough data to support such a decision. Two months later, the FDA authorized Moderna and Pfizer boosters for all adults without holding an advisory committee meeting, and then lowered eligibility in December and January to include everyone 12 and older.

Bingo.

 

Complete horseshit. 

[1trailmaker]

11 minutes ago, Renegade X said:

Anyone that thinks this vaccine is the way out of this is a complete idiot.

no one thinks this but fact is if we didn't have this vaccine and at over 90% the dead would be piling up in the streets...

There is no doubt this vaccine helped us get to this point.

Denial of this is just uneducated and clearly blind to see what is in front of someone.

 

Texas 87000 deaths is clearly a sign of stupid..  compare that to Canada at 37000 deaths most in the first year of no vaccine.....  Texas is averaging 55 dead a day Today.

 

Be thankful 90% people in Canada decided to help the situation -  while others did nothing but try to hinder the response 

 

[1trailmaker]

Of the 8,787 people who have died in Texas due to COVID-19 since early February, at least 43 were fully vaccinated, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

That means 99.5% of people who died due to COVID-19 in Texas from Feb. 8 to July 14 were unvaccinated, while 0.5% were the result of “breakthrough infections,” which DSHS defines as people who contracted the virus two weeks after being fully vaccinated.

 

Additionally, it said 95% of the 43 vaccinated people who died were 60 or older, and that a majority of them were white and a majority were men.

DSHS noted that these are preliminary numbers, which could change because each case must be confirmed through public health investigations. Statewide, more than 50,000 people have died of COVID-19 since March 2020, but the rate of deaths has slowed dramatically since vaccines became widely available in April.

 

  less than 60% vaccinated 

 

 

ignore real data and go with REBEL NEWS 

Edited March 29, 2022 by 1trailmaker

[ArcticCrusher]

Fail for fuck sakes just compare Florida to California.  Two extremes in tackling covid with similar results.  Where would you rather live?

 

[Renegade X]

3 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

no one thinks this but fact is if we didn't have this vaccine and at over 90% the dead would be piling up in the streets...

There is no doubt this vaccine helped us get to this point.

Denial of this is just uneducated and clearly blind to see what is in front of someone.

 

Texas 87000 deaths is clearly a sign of stupid..  compare that to Canada at 37000 deaths most in the first year of no vaccine.....  Texas is averaging 55 dead a day Today.

 

Be thankful 90% people in Canada decided to help the situation -  while others did nothing but try to hinder the response 

 

A sign of stupid is believing the numbers you have posted.  Dead people piling up on the streets!!! ahahahahahahahahhahahahha.  That's awesome!!

[1trailmaker]

2 minutes ago, Renegade X said:

A sign of stupid is believing the numbers you have posted.  Dead people piling up on the streets!!! ahahahahahahahahhahahahha.  That's awesome!!

of course it is all fake, Justin Trudeau is a mastermind and has managed to control all Medical and Scientific professionals and media releases worldwide.   

Awesome the power you claim Trudeau has on the world we as Canadians are so lucky to have someone with that much world control.

 

 

[1trailmaker]

15 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Fail for fuck sakes just compare Florida to California.  Two extremes in tackling covid with similar results.  Where would you rather live?

 

AC you say this is a common cold, TEXAS doesn't experience THE COMMON COLD like we do, just so you know it is a warm climate and the cold virus doesn't live well there.  How do you explain all these deaths?  fake

 

take a look around AC you are all alone