Dieseltech

I have not logged o Into this forum in over a year or so. Imagine my suprise to find you here arguing with yourself lol

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What is the nature of your business?

Yes its interesting how they have presented the data. They talk annual salary but avoid mentioning hourly wage or annual working hours .

This has and will more so become a game of public support. Both sides while not outright lying are manipulating their language to more support their position. Their is much more on the table in addition to wage increase amount and the public is not aware of the full ramifications . Job security , benefits and working conditions etc. This is the case with most contract negotiations . Ford was shocked to learn that there was sjgnificant public and union support for CUPE. Nov. 15 scared the shit out of him . This support could easily slip through CUPE's hands and into Fords as well.

I really do not know what the correct number should be . My feeling are that the collective bargaining process should be allowed to determine that.

Who cares ? Lets just get back to the table and negotiate a fair deal for all. This is no time for posturing.

As I stated before I agree 11.7 percent is unrealistic . However govt. offer is equally unrealistic. Both sides need to show some flexibility

that is quite a paintbrush you are using . There are EAs admin etc . all play a role in keeping the schools open.

correct ,..... both sides need to be reasonable and negotiate.

cupe did not walk away from the table as Ford keeps insisting.

As you said this all needs to be negotiated through legal and unobstructed collective bargaining at the table. Fords attempt to circumvent the process using the notwithstanding clause is inappropriate.

agreed . I also feel the government offer is not enough. they need to find a middle ground.

Show me something that backs up what your saying? zero public support is a strong assertion.