spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Dec. 2017 President Trump approves the first provision of lethal, defensive aid to Ukraine, widening a program of heightened assistance initiated by the Obama administration after Russia’s 2014 seizure of Ukrainian territory in Crimea. Sept. 28, 2018 Trump signs into law a 2019 spending bill that includes $250 million in Defense Department funding for direct military aid to Ukraine. Feb. 15, 2019 Trump signs into law another 2019 spending bill that includes $141 million in State Department funding for Ukraine’s military needs. Feb. 28, 2019 Defense Department Undersecretary for Policy John C. Rood tells Congress the Pentagon will start disbursing the first half of its aid to Ukraine. April 21, 2019 Actor and comedian Vlodymyr Zelensky is elected president of Ukraine by a wide margin, instantly becoming a target of pressure from the White House to announce two investigations, one into Ukraine’s alleged support for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election and the other into lucrative business ties former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, established in 2014 with a company in Ukraine. The campaign begins with an order by the White House a few days later for the removal of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. May 3, 2019 Trump discusses Ukraine with Russian president Vladimir Putin in a telephone call, including what Trump described as the “Russia Hoax,” namely the intelligence community’s unanimous judgment that it was Russia that intervened in 2016 to help get him elected. May 13, 2019 Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban meets with Trump at the White House and criticizes Ukraine, according to testimony by a White House aide. May 14, 2019 Trump blocks Vice President Pence from attending Zelensky’s May 20 inauguration, according to a Pence aide’s testimony. He instead sends Energy Secretary Rick Perry, Special Ukraine Representative Kurt Volker, and Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. The three of them – as the self-described “Three Amigos” – wind up helming a campaign in coordination with Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to pressure Zelensky about the probes. May 23, 2019 After an internal administration review, Rood, a former senior VP at the Lockheed Martin Corp. and missile analyst at the CIA, notifies Congress in a letter that Ukraine “has taken substantial actions ... for the purposes of decreasing corruption [and] increasing accountability.” He adds that “there remain areas that require significant attention,” but states that Ukraine has met all conditions for the remaining U.S. aid to be provided. On the same day, Trump tells the Three Amigos in an Oval Office meeting that they should “talk to Rudy” Giuliani about Ukraine policy. June 18, 2019 The Defense Department announces it plans to release its aid to Ukraine, provoking a newspaper article that in turn causes Trump to ask for details of the program. June 19, 2019 Trump raises concerns about the Ukraine aid through OMB officials and, in an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, repeats a debunked claim that Ukraine played a role in concealing a computer server used by Hillary Clinton. June 21, 2019 The State Department tells the Office of Management and Budget it plans to spend the $141 million. July 3, 2019 The Office of Management and Budget blocks the State Department from proceeding. July 10, 2019 At a White House meeting, Sondland tells the head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council that Ukraine must say it is conducting the investigations of Biden’s son and the 2016 election that Trump seeks, before Trump will meet with Zelensky. Zelensky’s aides respond in following weeks that he doesn’t want to be pulled into domestic American politics. July 12, 2019 All Ukraine aid is blocked at the President’s direct request, according to a message sent by a top White House official to OMB. July 18, 2019 A junior official at OMB informs more than a dozen officials at multiple agencies during a government teleconference that Defense Department aid to Ukraine is being withheld at the direction of the president, without providing any explanation. July 19, 2019 Sondland tells Zelensky in a phone call that he must initiate and announce the desired investigations, according to Sondland’s testimony. July 23, 2019 At a high-level government meeting on Ukraine, defense officials in particular raise concerns about the legality of the aid suspension. Those concerns are restated at a similar meeting on July 26. July 25, 2019 Volker tells a top aide to Zelensky it’s imperative that Zelensky say he is announcing the investigations, if he wants a visit to Washington. Zelensky then speaks with Trump on the telephone, saying he wants to continue military cooperation with America and that “we are almost ready to buy” more anti-tank missiles. Trump responds that “I would like you to do us a favor though,” and lists the investigations he wants. Ukrainian officials in Washington immediately raise questions with U.S. officials about the status of the military aid. July 30, 2019 Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper tells other top officials at a high-level meeting on Ukraine that legally, the administration will have to inform Congress if it wants to suspend the aid. No notification is made. July 31, 2019 Trump again speaks with Putin on the phone, and Ukraine is among their topics. August 2019 Ukrainian embassy officials express concerns about the status of the aid program in conversations with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security Council officer responsible for Ukraine, and with Catherine Croft, the State Department’s special adviser for Ukraine, according to their testimony. Aug. 9, 2019 Two congressional committee leaders tell OMB in a letter that withholding the State Department funding for Ukraine may be illegal. Aug. 12, 2019 A CIA officer who worked at the White House and then returned to the agency files a whistleblower complaint alleging improper White House dealings surrounding the Ukraine aid program. Aug. 9 -13, 2019 Volker and Sondland draft the text of an acceptable statement for Zelensky to read about the requested investigations, with the help of Giuliani. But a top aide to Zelensky balks. Mid-August 2019 National Security Adviser John Bolton meets with Trump to try to persuade him to resume military aid to Ukraine. He is not successful and resigns on Sept. 10 after multiple disagreements with Trump. Aug. 19, 2019 Two additional congressional committee leaders urge OMB in a letter to release the State Department funding for Ukraine. Aug. 28, 2019 The withholding of military aid to Ukraine becomes public in a Politico article. But the article quotes an unnamed senior official attributing the decision only to Trump’s desire to ensure “U.S. interests are being prioritized” and other countries are “paying their fair share” – the first of many different explanations offered by the White House to explain the interruption. Aug. 30, 2019 Sondland privately tells Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., he thinks the reason for withholding the aid is Trump’s desire to force the investigations. Trump privately confirms this to Johnson the following day, according to Johnson. Sept. 1, 2019 Sondland tells a top Zelensky aide, Andriy Yermak, that U.S. assistance is unlikely to flow until Ukraine provided the desired public statement, according to Sondland. Yermak disputes hearing this, however. Early September 2019 Zelensky makes an appointment to appear on CNN, where he plans to make the desired statement. Sept. 10 House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., demands to see the whistleblower complaint. Sept. 11 OMB releases the Ukraine aid. Sept. 18 or 19 Zelensky cancels his CNN interview. Sept. 30, 2019 The deadline for all 2019 federal spending, by which time all the Ukraine aid was supposed to be disbursed, or it would be automatically cancelled. Ultimately, $35 million was not spent in time but the deadline was extended in new legislation passed Sept. 19. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 To bad we do t with hold aid from every country. We have no money and no assets to back up our debt . You can't give away what you don't have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 @spin_dry, could you post the link where you got this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: @spin_dry, could you post the link where you got this? I could post several other sources as well. https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/ Edited February 27, 2022 by spin_dry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I could post several other sources as well. https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/ Now, could you put in context and post the reasons why it was done.....I'm betting you won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I could post several other sources as well. https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/ Snake posted something similar, I'll go grab it, let you read it..didn't seem to be so lopsided and had actual dated documents.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/02/26/viral-tweet-about-republican-senators-voting-to-deny-ukraine-military-aid-is-thoroughly-debunked/ @spin_dry, let me know what you think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Rigid1 said: https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/02/26/viral-tweet-about-republican-senators-voting-to-deny-ukraine-military-aid-is-thoroughly-debunked/ @spin_dry, let me know what you think.. All tweets. That's weird. Snake gets his news from twitter? I can't ask him because he canceled me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I could post several other sources as well. https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/ Lmfao a source funded by the open society foundation .aka George soros sweet Intel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, Ez ryder said: Lmfao a source funded by the open society foundation .aka George soros sweet Intel "Public Integrity" These scumbags are shameless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, DriftBusta said: "Public Integrity" These scumbags are shameless. The desperation is amusing to watch unfold in slow motion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, spin_dry said: All tweets. That's weird. Snake gets his news from twitter? I can't ask him because he canceled me. It's all not tweets, images of documents, more of a time line, it's actually done very well, its disputes the article you posted as misinformation.., did you not read it?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: It's all not tweets, images of documents, more of a time line, it's actually done very well, its disputes the article you posted as misinformation.., did you not read it?? Twitchy is an American Twitter aggregator and commentary website. Founded by conservative pundit Michelle Malkin in 2012, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 I find it difficult to take anything serious that has been posted by a member of the cancel culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 for someone who was going off grid to prepare for the end of times you sure post a lot, find a good wifi hotspot in the woods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Good thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, 01mxz800 said: for someone who was going off grid to prepare for the end of times you sure post a lot, find a good wifi hotspot in the woods? I've been sitting in a hospital waiting room on and off for the last two days. I've never watched this much Fox News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, DriftBusta said: Now, could you put in context and post the reasons why it was done.....I'm betting you won't. All to gut hook idiots like him and continue to push against Trump and make the dems in the washington swamp look better. But let's all remember...he doesn't vote, so that makes him bipartisan. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I find it difficult to take anything serious that has been posted by a member of the cancel culture. The cancel culture is you and your kind .so are you learning somthing about yourself alone in the van down by the river ? I find that hard to believe but I guess some times a old dig can learn new tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Twitchy is an American Twitter aggregator and commentary website. Founded by conservative pundit Michelle Malkin in 2012, I'm not talking about twitchy, Twitter, FB..Never mentioned it at all..I asked about the actual substance, the government docs....Geez, talk about someone not wanting to know the truth and tow their party line no matter what..SMH 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I've been sitting in a hospital waiting room on and off for the last two days. I've never watched this much Fox News. Odd, most hospitals allow you to change the channel? at least the dozens of hospitals I've been in throughout my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Odd, most hospitals allow you to change the channel? at least the dozens of hospitals I've been in throughout my life I enjoy good entertainment. The hospital itself won't allow visitors so the traditional waiting room is a thing of the past. COVID stuff. So we're relegated to the lobby. My family are all GOP'ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: I find it difficult to take anything serious that has been posted by a member of the cancel culture. Are you under the impression that you are taken seriously by anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Sleepr2 said: Are you under the impression that you are taken seriously by anyone? Taken seriously enough to get canceled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Taken seriously enough to get canceled. That’s your claim to fame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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