washedupmxer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Who says I'm not? My upbringing in the white working class has permanently colored my view, not in a bad way. Had I benefitted from even more privilege than just plain whiteness, maybe. I don't want to be some wingtip dickhead, but that might be different if I were raised by one. I say it, because anyone calling out what you do couldnt be. Pretty simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: I say it, because anyone calling out what you do couldnt be. Pretty simple As the peasants used the lord's pitchforks to kill him, he likely also observed the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, motonoggin said: As the peasants used the lord's pitchforks to kill him, he likely also observed the irony. Run your small biz with communism, let me know how it goes for you You'll be broke before you start remember taking any profit would be against what you believe in , more so x100000000 if its "medicine" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 So only 200ish years ago most of mankind was involved in agriculture....in some form.......as their primary vocation. Technology has advanced such that today less then 1% of the population is in agriculture....feeding FAR more people. Hmmmmm....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Im4snow said: So only 200ish years ago most of mankind was involved in agriculture....in some form.......as their primary vocation. Technology has advanced such that today less then 1% of the population is in agriculture....feeding FAR more people. Hmmmmm....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Im4snow said: So only 200ish years ago most of mankind was involved in agriculture....in some form.......as their primary vocation. Technology has advanced such that today less then 1% of the population is in agriculture....feeding FAR more people. Hmmmmm....... Yup. Won't be long before that's almost completely automated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Yup. Won't be long before that's almost completely automated as well. Edited December 7, 2016 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Run your small biz with communism, let me know how it goes for you You'll be broke before you start remember taking any profit would be against what you believe in , more so x100000000 if its "medicine" That's just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, motonoggin said: That's just dumb. Employee ownership is a helluva lot different than government or societal ownership.....but u knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Im4snow said: Employee ownership is a helluva lot different than government or societal ownership.....but u knew that. Of course I do. I don't believe in state ownership. Workers should control the means of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Of course I do. I don't believe in state ownership. Workers should control the means of production. Put up (the money) or shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Im4snow Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Hence robots, driverless cars, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, Im4snow said: Hence robots, driverless cars, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, motonoggin said: People gotta design machines, do marketing at Monsanto, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Im4snow said: People gotta design machines, do marketing at Monsanto, etc. So, what do you do with the rest of the workers? UBI? Full communism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Just now, motonoggin said: So, what do you do with the rest of the workers? UBI? Full communism? Like the farmers of 200 years ago.....they'll figure it out. Your old job didn't exist 75 years ago. Joel's didn't exist 30 years ago. You get the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: No, I got a '17 Renegade XRS 800. 850 doesn't come in the XS chassis. Wish it did. I would have ordered one. Way better car than the Grampala too SHO? 8 minutes ago, Im4snow said: Like the farmers of 200 years ago.....they'll figure it out. Your old job didn't exist 75 years ago. Joel's didn't exist 30 years ago. You get the idea Mine didn't either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Google Gauranteed Basic Income. Coming to a city near you. http://www.npr.org/2016/09/24/495186758/as-our-jobs-are-automated-some-say-well-need-a-guaranteed-basic-income Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Just now, s pump said: Google Gauranteed Basic Income. Coming to a city near you. http://www.npr.org/2016/09/24/495186758/as-our-jobs-are-automated-some-say-well-need-a-guaranteed-basic-income Before or after the Nazis come after me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Before or after the Nazis come after me They are actually studying this on the left coast. 1500 person trial. They get $1500 a month no work. Social utopia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Im4snow said: So only 200ish years ago most of mankind was involved in agriculture....in some form.......as their primary vocation. Technology has advanced such that today less then 1% of the population is in agriculture....feeding FAR more people. Hmmmmm....... Wonder what Moto will do with his inherited farm land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 35 minutes ago, Im4snow said: Like the farmers of 200 years ago.....they'll figure it out. Your old job didn't exist 75 years ago. Joel's didn't exist 30 years ago. You get the idea Eventually we will run out of work to do. Capitalism will continue to make efforts to remove labor from their list of liabilities. 18 minutes ago, s pump said: Google Gauranteed Basic Income. Coming to a city near you. http://www.npr.org/2016/09/24/495186758/as-our-jobs-are-automated-some-say-well-need-a-guaranteed-basic-income Also known as guillotine insurance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 hours ago, motonoggin said: I watched plenty of the Duke boys. Seemed kinda anarchistic to me in hindsight. Good ol boys doin no harm but in trouble with the law anyway seems to highlight the oppression of unjustified hierarchies. I think you might have overthought the show a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I think you might have overthought the show a little bit. Well, I didn't think it was packaged as social commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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