Mileage Psycho Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I know many here will have a hard time believing this especially in light of Trump Tweeting about that crackpot Doc from Nigeria. Quote Trump’s Coronavirus Testing Czar: Time to ‘Move On’ From Hydroxychloroquine Assistant Secretary for Health Adm. Brett Giroir pushed back against President Donald Trump’s obsession with unproven anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine on Sunday, stating unequivocally that he “can’t recommend” the drug as a coronavirus treatment and that it’s time to “move on” from it. Over the past week, the president and his allies have renewed their embrace of the controversial medication after a fringe group of doctors touted it as a coronavirus “cure” in a viral video. Trump continued to endorse the video even after finding out that Dr. Stella Immanuel, one of the most outspoken members of the group, claimed that “alien DNA” was in medicine and some female medical problems are caused by demon sex. Giroir, however, refused to back the president’s support for hydroxychloroquine during a Meet the Press interview while pointing to a plethora of studies that show the drug is largely ineffective in treating COVID-19. “Look, I know you’re not a political person, but the president continues to advocate for hydroxychloroquine,” NBC News anchor Chuck Todd asked on Sunday. “Is that a danger to public health?” The coronavirus testing czar noted that the anti-malarial drug at first “looked very promising” as a coronavirus treatment before explaining that a number of randomized clinical trials since then have now revealed there “is no benefit.” “At this point in time, we don’t recommend that as a treatment and there’s no evidence to show that it is,” he added. Todd, meanwhile, wondered aloud if Giroir was “concerned” that the administration’s “mixed messaging” on the drug is “going to continue to sort of create this fog” about the drug’s efficacy. “So hydroxychloroquine needs to be prescribed by a physician,” the HHS official replied. “There may be circumstances, and I don’t know what they are, where a physician may prescribe it for an individual.” “But I think most physicians and prescribers are evidence-based and they’re not influenced by whatever’s on Twitter or anything else and the evidence just doesn’t show that hydroxychloroquine is effective right now,” he continued. “I think we need to move on from that and talk about what is effective.” Giroir went on to say that the most effective methods of stemming the spread of the virus are social distancing, mask-wearing, and hand-washing while touting advances in therapeutics and potential vaccines. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-coronavirus-testing-czar-time-to-move-on-from-hydroxychloroquine/ar-BB17tnia?ocid=hplocalnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: I know many here will have a hard time believing this especially in light of Trump Tweeting about that crackpot Doc from Nigeria. It’s not needed anymore because we are all wearing masks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Woodtick said: It’s not needed anymore because we are all wearing masks now. The coronavirus testing czar noted that the anti-malarial drug at first “looked very promising” as a coronavirus treatment before explaining that a number of randomized clinical trials since then have now revealed there “is no benefit.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: The coronavirus testing czar noted that the anti-malarial drug at first “looked very promising” as a coronavirus treatment before explaining that a number of randomized clinical trials since then have now revealed there “is no benefit.” No cure for the regular flu either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The coronavirus testing czar noted that the anti-malarial drug at first “looked very promising” as a coronavirus treatment before explaining that a number of randomized clinical trials since then have now revealed there “is no benefit.” But now it's suddenly dangerous. Your being played. The positive data is when it's administered very early on, not late where the clinical trials failed to produce positive results. There is no harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 A good watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Poor trump cult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Henry ford clinic says it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ACE said: Henry ford clinic says it works. Not a randomized clinical test. Edited August 2, 2020 by frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, frenchy said: Not a randomized clinical test. I don’t care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, ACE said: I don’t care Well duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, frenchy said: Well duh! You’d be like Tom hanks, even despite your TDS, if you got really sick from the bat soup sick you’d take HCQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, frenchy said: Not a randomized clinical test. They claim it helped for cases treated early on, not for late stage treatment. There data supports this. Nobody is claiming a universal cure. But now it's deadly? That's total bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: They claim it helped for cases treated early on, not for late stage treatment. There data supports this. Nobody is claiming a universal cure. But now it's deadly? That's total bs. Hydroxychloroquine has been proven for decades to hinder the replication process of certain viruses especially when combined with zinc. The way it works it would make sense that it would be better started as a treatment in early stages of the illness. this idea that it’s some kind of new, wild, untested drug with unknown side effects is ridiculous and is being passed around by lower IQ individuals with a horrendous confirmation bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Imagine if Trump said the moon is made of cheese? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: Hydroxychloroquine has been proven for decades to hinder the replication process of certain viruses especially when combined with zinc. The way it works it would make sense that it would be better started as a treatment in early stages of the illness. this idea that it’s some kind of new, wild, untested drug with unknown side effects is ridiculous and is being passed around by lower IQ individuals with a horrendous confirmation bias Since 2007 there have been well over 50 million prescriptions in the US and it's now suddenly dangerous to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Since 2007 there have been well over 50 million prescriptions in the US and it's now suddenly dangerous to take. A poll of doctors also showed that it’s likely the most effective treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeusand Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Don't worry about a vaccination coming out for Covid that will actually work 100% because they haven't figured out a flu vaccination that works 100% in the last 50 years anyways. No worries, covid-19 will go away on its own in two years just like it did in 1918 without a vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, ACE said: A poll of doctors also showed that it’s likely the most effective treatment Why is the early data showing positive results, but now it's not? Did they change experiments? https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2020/03/28/Hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-French-study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, ACE said: Hydroxychloroquine has been proven for decades to hinder the replication process of certain viruses especially when combined with zinc. The way it works it would make sense that it would be better started as a treatment in early stages of the illness. this idea that it’s some kind of new, wild, untested drug with unknown side effects is ridiculous and is being passed around by lower IQ individuals with a horrendous confirmation bias I took it for almost 2 years in the Middle East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Why is the early data showing positive results, but now it's not? Did they change experiments? https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2020/03/28/Hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-French-study The one flawed study that I seen against hydroxychloroquine and zinc was a test that was giving patients very high doses of cloroquine and they were noting side effects that were already expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Woodtick said: I took it for almost 2 years in the Middle East. For an autoimmune disease or viral protection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ACE said: For an autoimmune disease or viral protection Malaria prevention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Since 2007 there have been well over 50 million prescriptions in the US and it's now suddenly dangerous to take. It’s dangerous to certain high risk groups for Covid namely those with heart conditions who are disproportionately represented. the dangerous part is these people taking it improperly or carelessly prescribed don’t know why many can’t understand this it’s pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, frenchy said: It’s dangerous to certain high risk groups for Covid namely those with heart conditions who are disproportionately represented. the dangerous part is these people taking it improperly or carelessly prescribed don’t know why many can’t understand this it’s pretty simple. That’s been proven false. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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