spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Was China completely truthful and upfront about the virus and helpful immediately upon its "discovery" in the population? For a variety of reason, no. Yet that has no bearing on when this this thing made the jump to humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertising Member Seatofmypants Posted May 5, 2020 Advertising Member Share Posted May 5, 2020 12 hours ago, f7ben said: China needs to be dealt with Fucking right they do. When do you think they knew? October? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 5, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: For a variety of reason, no. Yet that has no bearing on when this this thing made the jump to humans. We have zero proof it was naturally zoonotic or made so in a lab. That is the problem and it's because China was denying any outside involvement. Why would they deny outside help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Seatofmypants said: Fucking right they do. When do you think they knew? October? No I think November like their Scientists initially claimed before they were silenced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertising Member Seatofmypants Posted May 5, 2020 Advertising Member Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: No I think November like their Scientists initially claimed before they were silenced I'm skeptical. Even then this whole thing falls at their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Highmark said: We have zero proof it was naturally zoonotic or made so in a lab. That is the problem and it's because China was denying any outside involvement. Why would they deny outside help? There’s all the proof that’s needed proving its naturally occurring. That’s not even a realistic conversation to entertain. There’s always jt for intellectual quests about this “Frankenstein” virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 5, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: There’s all the proof that’s needed proving its naturally occurring. That’s not even a realistic conversation to entertain. There’s always jt for intellectual quests about this “Frankenstein” virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: There’s all the proof that’s needed proving its naturally occurring. That’s not even a realistic conversation to entertain. There’s always jt for intellectual quests about this “Frankenstein” virus. Can you please make up your mind on this? You were just saying it was for sure made in a Chinese lab a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: There’s all the proof that’s needed proving its naturally occurring. That’s not even a realistic conversation to entertain. There’s always jt for intellectual quests about this “Frankenstein” virus. Tell us then, why are so many scientist saying it is NOT natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Can you please make up your mind on this? You were just saying it was for sure made in a Chinese lab a few weeks ago. No....he said infection originated in the lab. Not the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: No....he said infection originated in the lab. Not the virus. I'm not going to try and search it but, I remember him specifically stating he believed is was originated in the lab and then, posted a link about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, f7ben said: No I think November like their Scientists initially claimed before they were silenced There’s two working theories at the moment. There’s evidence that a form of this virus was present in humans for many years before the latest adaptation occurred. The second is the virus as it now exists was past through another species to man. Either way, that adaptation/passing occurred sometime in November based on rate of spread and infections. The protein spikes which make this virus so effective are naturally occurring. Not Super glued on in a Chinese lab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Can you please make up your mind on this? You were just saying it was for sure made in a Chinese lab a few weeks ago. Nope. Never wrote that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: Nope. Never wrote that. Hmmmm....my memory is pretty good on shit like this. I remember it surprising me a bit...but not that much. But, I can't save every hypocritical, backflipping post in here and I'm not even sure how to find it in this hot mess of Covid scare threads you've all posted over the last month so......maybe you are correct and I have you confused with somebody else. But, I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: No....he said infection originated in the lab. Not the virus. That’s what I wrote. Someone in the lab was accidentally infected by a research animal. The reason for this idea is the species of bats carrying the dangerous coronaviruses that Shi had been researching all came from an area 900 miles from Wuhan. That seems really suspicious to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, old indy said: Tell us then, why are so many scientist saying it is NOT natural? Who are those scientists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Zambroski said: Can you please make up your mind on this? You were just saying it was for sure made in a Chinese lab a few weeks ago. It's fucking hilarious. He is just trying way too hard and obviously has too much time on his hands. There is hope though. He bought a baby Beemer to hop up. Maybe he'll go back to being an OCD motorsports guy we all knew and liked. But I doubt it, he may be too far gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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