LIES-Liberal Indoctrination Education System.

[Woodtick]

Just now, Anler said:

At least they care!  

He was just a little different as a child?

[steve from amherst]

Well ya may be playing hockey later in the day, just put it on.

[XC.Morrison]

Well, when the class is titled “Human Relations and Race Diversity” don’t you sort of know what you’re signing up for at the outset.  Sounds like an elective to me.  
 

https://catalog.stcloudstate.edu/Catalog/ViewCatalog.aspx?pageid=viewcatalog&topicgroupid=5667&entitytype=CID&entitycode=HURL+102

Edited January 14, 2020 by XC.Morrison

[Cold War]

7 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said:

Well, when the class is titled “Human Relations and Race Diversity” don’t you sort of know what you’re signing up for at the outset.  Sounds like an elective to me.  
 

https://catalog.stcloudstate.edu/Catalog/ViewCatalog.aspx?pageid=viewcatalog&topicgroupid=5667&entitytype=CID&entitycode=HURL+102

I would have to ask, but I’m pretty sure my daughter was required to take a diversity class to get her degree.  

[XC.Morrison]

25 minutes ago, Cold War said:

I would have to ask, but I’m pretty sure my daughter was required to take a diversity class to get her degree.  

It looks like they require 3 courses from the category of "diversity" nowadays, but you don't have to take one on race relations specifically.  Looks like they've got about 70 different options to choose from.  Archaeoastronomy sounds interesting.  

https://www.stcloudstate.edu/mrc/academics/diversity-courses.aspx

[Kivalo]

Zammy,

Why in the sweet fuck is your daughter taking such a horse shit class?

Might I request that you ask her to troll this "professor" at every single chance she gets?

[XC.Morrison]

"Women in Aviation" might be interesting.  I watched a documentary on Amelia Earhart a couple weeks ago - it was one of those shows where they were looking for long lost wreckage of her plane.  

[Cold War]

11 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said:

It looks like they require 3 courses from the category of "diversity" nowadays, but you don't have to take one on race relations specifically.  Looks like they've got about 70 different options to choose from.  Archaeoastronomy sounds interesting.  

https://www.stcloudstate.edu/mrc/academics/diversity-courses.aspx

I’ll ask her about it,  but as I remember it wasn’t specific to race relations. The professor took it in that direction. 

[Zambroski]

52 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said:

Well, when the class is titled “Human Relations and Race Diversity” don’t you sort of know what you’re signing up for at the outset.  Sounds like an elective to me.  
 

https://catalog.stcloudstate.edu/Catalog/ViewCatalog.aspx?pageid=viewcatalog&topicgroupid=5667&entitytype=CID&entitycode=HURL+102

Don't white wash this (pun).  Like most classes now, the main agenda seems to be politically driven.

"Barack Obama".

5 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Zammy,

Why in the sweet fuck is your daughter taking such a horse shit class?

Might I request that you ask her to troll this "professor" at every single chance she gets?

She is in pre-med classes so, these types of humanities are required.  They all pretty much read out like this one does though with a heavy political bias to the left.

Just now, Cold War said:

I’ll ask her about it,  but as I remember it wasn’t specific to race relations. The professor took it in that direction. 

They absolutely do this.

[frenchy]

4 hours ago, Zambroski said:

Exactly, but let's be honest.  That isn't what these educators are about anymore.

My daughter just text me and told me she was thinking about dropping the class.  That's her call but, if she plans on dropping every class that seems like it has a liberal agenda, she may as well drop out of school.

No one likes a quitter. 

[frenchy]

4 hours ago, Zambroski said:

She always gives me the disclaimer "DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BUT......"

She learned her lesson in High School.  I was escorted around several times by the officer up there....after my first trip to "discuss" a few things with some of these fucking twats.

Wait. This is a COLLEGE class?

[steve from amherst]

5 minutes ago, frenchy said:

Wait. This is a COLLEGE class?

Yes , she is paying for it. 

[Ez ryder]

5 hours ago, Zambroski said:

My daughter is starting her second semester as a sophomore.  She just sent me this from the one of her new classes.

 

wow 

[Ez ryder]

5 hours ago, racer254 said:

Yeah, I remember you posting something like this last year for another one of her classes.  I hope the school has been notified.

notified? he'll the board  saw that and gave the professor a instant raise 

[Zambroski]

17 minutes ago, frenchy said:

Wait. This is a COLLEGE class?

Yes

[XC.Morrison]

Are left-wing American professors indoctrinating their students?

The secretary of education thinks so; the evidence suggests otherwise

Graphic detail

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Jan 9th 2020

OF ALL THE demographic divisions among America’s Democrats and Republicans, few are as wide or as deep as the educational divide. Consider how white voters cast their ballots in the 2016 presidential election. Some 64% of non-college-educated whites plumped for Donald Trump. Among those with a university degree, the figure was just 38%. Congressional elections feature a similar split: a recent analysis by the Wall Street Journal found that of the 30 House districts with the highest concentration of college-educated voters, all but three are represented by Democrats.

This educational divide is caused in part by changing political attitudes. A survey conducted in 2015 by the Pew Research Centre, a think-tank, found that 24% of Americans with a university degree held consistently liberal positions on a range of political issues—including government performance, the social safety-net, the environment and immigration—up from 5% two decades ago. For those who had studied in graduate school, the figure was 31%. Of Americans without a degree, just 5% held such liberal opinions.

Is university education itself behind these left-wing political views? Or are individuals with liberal values more inclined to attend university in the first place? In a speech in 2017 at the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual shindig for conservative activists, Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, accused American professors of telling their students “what to do, what to say and, more ominously, what to think.” This view is surprisingly common. A survey by the Pew Research Centre in 2018 found that, of the nearly two-thirds of Americans who were dissatisfied with the country’s universities, roughly half (79% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats) thought that a “major reason” for their shortcomings is that professors bring their political and social views into the lecture hall.

An unpublished analysis by Shom Mazumder, a PhD student in government at Harvard University, which was shared with The Economist, suggests that academia’s indoctrination of America’s youth has not been as successful as Ms DeVos claims. Mr Mazumder’s study is based on data from the Co-operative Congressional Election Study (CCES), a poll of more than 50,000 people led by researchers from Harvard and Tufts universities. One of the advantages of this survey is that it tracks the same respondents over time, asking them about their educational attainment as well as eliciting various opinions on political and social issues.

Mr Mazumder found little evidence that college education itself makes people more liberal. Between 2010 and 2014, survey respondents were asked every year which political party they identified with. The share identifying as Democrats did not shift significantly between freshman year and graduation. Similarly, when asked about their political viewpoints, the share of students identifying as conservative changed little during their time at university. The same pattern held for questions about climate change, health care and immigration (see chart). This suggests that colleges simply attract students with pre-existing left-wing dispositions, rather than changing their ideologies once they arrive.

Although the survey responses oscillated from year to year, the effects were not big enough to be statistically significant. Such a lack of evidence should discourage people from believing that academic elites push their left-wing agenda onto their impressionable young pupils. But given how often conservative-leaning media rail against leftist indoctrination in universities, it almost certainly will not.

 

[Zambroski]

17 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said:

Are left-wing American professors indoctrinating their students?

The secretary of education thinks so; the evidence suggests otherwise

Graphic detail

---

Jan 9th 2020

OF ALL THE demographic divisions among America’s Democrats and Republicans, few are as wide or as deep as the educational divide. Consider how white voters cast their ballots in the 2016 presidential election. Some 64% of non-college-educated whites plumped for Donald Trump. Among those with a university degree, the figure was just 38%. Congressional elections feature a similar split: a recent analysis by the Wall Street Journal found that of the 30 House districts with the highest concentration of college-educated voters, all but three are represented by Democrats.

This educational divide is caused in part by changing political attitudes. A survey conducted in 2015 by the Pew Research Centre, a think-tank, found that 24% of Americans with a university degree held consistently liberal positions on a range of political issues—including government performance, the social safety-net, the environment and immigration—up from 5% two decades ago. For those who had studied in graduate school, the figure was 31%. Of Americans without a degree, just 5% held such liberal opinions.

Is university education itself behind these left-wing political views? Or are individuals with liberal values more inclined to attend university in the first place? In a speech in 2017 at the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual shindig for conservative activists, Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, accused American professors of telling their students “what to do, what to say and, more ominously, what to think.” This view is surprisingly common. A survey by the Pew Research Centre in 2018 found that, of the nearly two-thirds of Americans who were dissatisfied with the country’s universities, roughly half (79% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats) thought that a “major reason” for their shortcomings is that professors bring their political and social views into the lecture hall.

An unpublished analysis by Shom Mazumder, a PhD student in government at Harvard University, which was shared with The Economist, suggests that academia’s indoctrination of America’s youth has not been as successful as Ms DeVos claims. Mr Mazumder’s study is based on data from the Co-operative Congressional Election Study (CCES), a poll of more than 50,000 people led by researchers from Harvard and Tufts universities. One of the advantages of this survey is that it tracks the same respondents over time, asking them about their educational attainment as well as eliciting various opinions on political and social issues.

Mr Mazumder found little evidence that college education itself makes people more liberal. Between 2010 and 2014, survey respondents were asked every year which political party they identified with. The share identifying as Democrats did not shift significantly between freshman year and graduation. Similarly, when asked about their political viewpoints, the share of students identifying as conservative changed little during their time at university. The same pattern held for questions about climate change, health care and immigration (see chart). This suggests that colleges simply attract students with pre-existing left-wing dispositions, rather than changing their ideologies once they arrive.

Although the survey responses oscillated from year to year, the effects were not big enough to be statistically significant. Such a lack of evidence should discourage people from believing that academic elites push their left-wing agenda onto their impressionable young pupils. But given how often conservative-leaning media rail against leftist indoctrination in universities, it almost certainly will not.

 

What is happening is simple, just like I am telling my daughter to do, play their silly game, learn what is needed and move on.  In the end, they know what is being shoved down their throats and because liberals, especially career educators with little to no real world experience, and certainly lacking Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People” can’t see how transparently repugnant they’ve become, students are actually turning the other way.

A prime example was here in MN during 2015. Our liberal indoctrinators through their mothership, the DFL, found it necessary to poll high school students on who they would vote for in the election to get a read on things.  Of course, before this, there was an interesting push of politics discussed in the classes. It backfired.  At the beginning, most said Clinton, after the agenda seemed clear, it swayed toward Trump.  My daughter, who was in the 10th grade at the time said kids were tired of feeling like the teachers and the media were pushing Clinton on them.  Fucking 15 and 16 year olds can figure them out!!!  Oops.  

Liberals are so repulsively wrapped up in being their self proclaimed “intellectually elite” they don’t even see how grotesque they’ve become.

[bussman]

The OP

 

[Cold War]

34 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said:

Are left-wing American professors indoctrinating their students?

The secretary of education thinks so; the evidence suggests otherwise

Graphic detail

---

Jan 9th 2020

OF ALL THE demographic divisions among America’s Democrats and Republicans, few are as wide or as deep as the educational divide. Consider how white voters cast their ballots in the 2016 presidential election. Some 64% of non-college-educated whites plumped for Donald Trump. Among those with a university degree, the figure was just 38%. Congressional elections feature a similar split: a recent analysis by the Wall Street Journal found that of the 30 House districts with the highest concentration of college-educated voters, all but three are represented by Democrats.

This educational divide is caused in part by changing political attitudes. A survey conducted in 2015 by the Pew Research Centre, a think-tank, found that 24% of Americans with a university degree held consistently liberal positions on a range of political issues—including government performance, the social safety-net, the environment and immigration—up from 5% two decades ago. For those who had studied in graduate school, the figure was 31%. Of Americans without a degree, just 5% held such liberal opinions.

Is university education itself behind these left-wing political views? Or are individuals with liberal values more inclined to attend university in the first place? In a speech in 2017 at the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual shindig for conservative activists, Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, accused American professors of telling their students “what to do, what to say and, more ominously, what to think.” This view is surprisingly common. A survey by the Pew Research Centre in 2018 found that, of the nearly two-thirds of Americans who were dissatisfied with the country’s universities, roughly half (79% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats) thought that a “major reason” for their shortcomings is that professors bring their political and social views into the lecture hall.

An unpublished analysis by Shom Mazumder, a PhD student in government at Harvard University, which was shared with The Economist, suggests that academia’s indoctrination of America’s youth has not been as successful as Ms DeVos claims. Mr Mazumder’s study is based on data from the Co-operative Congressional Election Study (CCES), a poll of more than 50,000 people led by researchers from Harvard and Tufts universities. One of the advantages of this survey is that it tracks the same respondents over time, asking them about their educational attainment as well as eliciting various opinions on political and social issues.

Mr Mazumder found little evidence that college education itself makes people more liberal. Between 2010 and 2014, survey respondents were asked every year which political party they identified with. The share identifying as Democrats did not shift significantly between freshman year and graduation. Similarly, when asked about their political viewpoints, the share of students identifying as conservative changed little during their time at university. The same pattern held for questions about climate change, health care and immigration (see chart). This suggests that colleges simply attract students with pre-existing left-wing dispositions, rather than changing their ideologies once they arrive.

Although the survey responses oscillated from year to year, the effects were not big enough to be statistically significant. Such a lack of evidence should discourage people from believing that academic elites push their left-wing agenda onto their impressionable young pupils. But given how often conservative-leaning media rail against leftist indoctrination in universities, it almost certainly will not.

 

How much do teachers unions give to Dems vs Republicans?  

[XC.Morrison]

9 minutes ago, Cold War said:

How much do teachers unions give to Dems vs Republicans?  

Pretty much exclusively goes to Dems.  

[Ez ryder]

2 hours ago, frenchy said:

Wait. This is a COLLEGE class?

in what was once MN top party school 

[Zambroski]

21 minutes ago, Cold War said:

How much do teachers unions give to Dems vs Republicans?  

I like riddles!  How many of the White House Press Corps are NOT Democrats?

Percentages are the same.  

Hmmmm.....

[Zambroski]

4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

in what was once MN top party school 

And she thinks I don’t know that.  

 

[Ez ryder]

Just now, Zambroski said:

And she thinks I don’t know that.  

 

I have passed out a few times in St cloud lol.

sad thing is with room and meal card and tuition  in the late 80s st cloud was under 8g a yr 

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Ez ryder said:

I have passed out a few times in St cloud lol.

sad thing is with room and meal card and tuition  in the late 80s st cloud was under 8g a yr 

Back when colleges were actually concerned about education and weren’t primarily massive financial institutions.