Poor Dumbass Buttcocks the retard

[f7ben]

 

 

The problem is the the piggy backs cannot adjust timing or rev limit. It basically adds boost and fuel. The stock programmed boost/timing curve drops off substantially after 7900. There is no reason for this other than that is how the factory programmed it. The 1100T engine is much happier at 8100 rpms vs 7800. What I mean by this is detonation is less likely at 8100-8500 vs 7800. The rpms where detonation is most prevalent is 7500 to 7800. Unfortunately this is where the stock boost timing curve makes maximum power. At stock boost levels, this is not a problem. Our tune makes maximum power (within a percent or two) from 7800 all the way to 8500. The other reason why people with piggybacks are hitting the rev limit is because if stock clutching is used, the increased power will put you above 8000 rpms which is too close to the stock rev limit. With ours, you can use your stock clutching, spin the motor at 8100-8200 and not change any cluching.

The other features of our flash not mentioned above are: Better, smoother idle, water temp rescaling (prevents the motor from burning down due to overheating by engaging protection maps 20 deg F earlier), removal of the stage 1 cold rev limit (this allows you to pull your sled out of the trailer within 30-45 seconds of starting vs 5 minutes with the factory programming on cold days), knock sensor scaling to 8500 rpms to match the rev limit, 

[f7ben]

Thats EvoPowersports discussing why running their 240hp flash on stock clutching works so well

Fucking retarded ass HSR and Butcocks 

Edited December 23, 2019 by f7ben

[f7ben]

That's adding 70hp to stock clutching and having it work wonderfully according to one of the lead cat tuners on earth.

Sorry faggots , you lose again

[awful knawful]

Someone still has major butthurt.

[f7ben]

Just now, awful knawful said:

Someone still has major butthurt.

Nope....just like owning you retarded faggots daily and rubbing your nose in your ignorance about the issue 

Want me to add you to the title Awful you moron? I seem.to recall you running your retarded cocksucker plenty when you knew less than nothing

[jtssrx]

31 minutes ago, f7ben said:

 

 

The problem is the the piggy backs cannot adjust timing or rev limit. It basically adds boost and fuel. The stock programmed boost/timing curve drops off substantially after 7900. There is no reason for this other than that is how the factory programmed it. The 1100T engine is much happier at 8100 rpms vs 7800. What I mean by this is detonation is less likely at 8100-8500 vs 7800. The rpms where detonation is most prevalent is 7500 to 7800. Unfortunately this is where the stock boost timing curve makes maximum power. At stock boost levels, this is not a problem. Our tune makes maximum power (within a percent or two) from 7800 all the way to 8500. The other reason why people with piggybacks are hitting the rev limit is because if stock clutching is used, the increased power will put you above 8000 rpms which is too close to the stock rev limit. With ours, you can use your stock clutching, spin the motor at 8100-8200 and not change any cluching.

The other features of our flash not mentioned above are: Better, smoother idle, water temp rescaling (prevents the motor from burning down due to overheating by engaging protection maps 20 deg F earlier), removal of the stage 1 cold rev limit (this allows you to pull your sled out of the trailer within 30-45 seconds of starting vs 5 minutes with the factory programming on cold days), knock sensor scaling to 8500 rpms to match the rev limit, 

They are trying to sell you on their product, of course, they are trying to say it's better when it's not clutched as many people ar cheap asses. Oh, I can buy you tune and run stock clutching and it's going to work. With the right fuel the 1100 was fast at 7800 because it makes more power there. The problem isn't the clutching at 7800, it's the load put on the motor at 7800 and without great fuel you get detonation. Running it at a higher rpm where you have less timing is a bandaid for poor fuel

[Rod]

Of course it has less detonation at high rpm dummy it has less cylinder pressure because it’s making less power 

[Rod]

12 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

They are trying to sell you on their product, of course, they are trying to say it's better when it's not clutched as many people ar cheap asses. Oh, I can buy you tune and run stock clutching and it's going to work. With the right fuel the 1100 was fast at 7800 because it makes more power there. The problem isn't the clutching at 7800, it's the load put on the motor at 7800 and without great fuel you get detonation. Running it at a higher rpm where you have less timing is a bandaid for poor fuel

Spot on and  

[f7ben]

27 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

They are trying to sell you on their product, of course, they are trying to say it's better when it's not clutched as many people ar cheap asses. Oh, I can buy you tune and run stock clutching and it's going to work. With the right fuel the 1100 was fast at 7800 because it makes more power there. The problem isn't the clutching at 7800, it's the load put on the motor at 7800 and without great fuel you get detonation. Running it at a higher rpm where you have less timing is a bandaid for poor fuel

100% incorrect when adding boost and adjusting timing

[Anler]

That was a gaping owned on buttcoks. Damn you could land a 747 in toilers butthole now... 

[f7ben]

Just now, Anler said:

That was a gaping owned on buttcoks. Damn you could land a 747 in toilers butthole now... 

You could land 2 dreamliners side by side in his gaping ass all day!!!!

[Rod]

Those tunes are for citiot nerds who have no clue what they’re doing and just want to tell their buddies they have XXX amount of HP

 

then they catch a dirty gape by someone who knows what they’re doing 

[f7ben]

Just now, Tickle Shits said:

Those tunes are for citiot nerds who have no clue what they’re doing and just want to tell their buddies they have XXX amount of HP

 

then they catch a dirty gape by someone who knows what they’re doing 

They are bus lengths faster than stock sleds and anyone who's says otherwise is a fucking moron

[Rod]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

They are bus lengths faster than stock sleds and anyone who's says otherwise is a fucking moron

They’re pandering to morons like you lol

[f7ben]

Just now, Tickle Shits said:

They’re pandering to morons like you lol

Nope....they just understand how clutches and turbos work

[Rod]

Just now, f7ben said:

Nope....they just understand how clutches and turbos work

No they understand how to push their shitty tunes to morons 

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, Tickle Shits said:

No they understand how to push their shitty tunes to morons 

you got

[Rod]

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

you got

You seriously have no clue how engines work do you  

[f7ben]

Just now, Tickle Shits said:

You seriously have no clue how engines work do you  

Right.....that's U

[Rod]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Right.....that's U

It’s clearly you 

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, f7ben said:

100% incorrect when adding boost and adjusting timing

He's not talking about adding timing. He's talking about running your tuned 1100 at 8100 becuase there is less timing at that RPM level. The stock setup ran at 7800 which has more timing at that rpm level. When you increase the booth the RPM's increase as the extra power pushes the stock clutching past 7800. His contention is don't load the motor with heavier clutching to bring it back to 7800 as the higher boost combined with the heavier load to get it back to 7800 along with the more aggressive timing will cause detonation. if you have good fuel it's irrelevant and the sled will make more power at 7800. 

You know you are right that you can run it at 8100 and it will be fine no one is saying your wrong well I'm not at least. 

[Rod]

2 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

He's not talking about adding timing. He's talking about running your tuned 1100 at 8100 becuase there is less timing at that RPM level. The stock setup ran at 7800 which has more timing at that rpm level. When you increase the booth the RPM's increase as the extra power pushes the stock clutching past 7800. His contention is don't load the motor with heavier clutching to bring it back to 7800 as the higher boost combined with the heavier load to get it back to 7800 along with the more aggressive timing will cause detonation. if you have good fuel it's irrelevant and the sled will make more power at 7800. 

You know you are right that you can run it at 8100 and it will be fine no one is saying your wrong well I'm not at least. 

It’s also out of its torque range so the cylinder pressures are lower, which makes it detonate less. But only because it makes less power there 

to say the engine is “happier” there is just pandering to idiots. It’s the shitty fuel that’s happier there on a shitty tune 

[f7ben]

2 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

He's not talking about adding timing. He's talking about running your tuned 1100 at 8100 becuase there is less timing at that RPM level. The stock setup ran at 7800 which has more timing at that rpm level. When you increase the booth the RPM's increase as the extra power pushes the stock clutching past 7800. His contention is don't load the motor with heavier clutching to bring it back to 7800 as the higher boost combined with the heavier load to get it back to 7800 along with the more aggressive timing will cause detonation. if you have good fuel it's irrelevant and the sled will make more power at 7800. 

You know you are right that you can run it at 8100 and it will be fine no one is saying your wrong well I'm not at least. 

Listen dude....hes talking about lowering timing slightly and extending the timing curve , knock protection and rev limiter past 8500.

The stock map is very fuel sensitive at 11.5 lbs boost and 7700 rpm

You can run 18lbs of boost on the same fuel by simply letting rpm rise and altering the ignition map to a much more boost friendly one.

This isnt rocket science and the sled running 18lbs boost will absolutely lay a fucking beating on the sled running 11.5 with identical clutching in both

[awful knawful]

Gapped Anus laying a beat down on OP retard!

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, awful knawful said:

Gapped Anus laying a beat down on OP retard!