ArcticCrusher Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskokaGator Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 22 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: not if gas prices goes low Gas used to be $1.40 a litre now 30% cheaper - do you see things going 30$% cheaper? NO YOU DON'T Companies love to say things are more expensive as GAS goes up but never say things are cheaper as GAS goes down - its a game they play because they all have a cushion for GAS prices built in to their business, if they didn't they would go broke real quick its a game of FEAR, I guess we will see who wins, for you ONEWAY vote you have no choice in any Election its already chosen for your entire life You really are a financial idiot. A product could only go down or up by the same percentage as gas if the gas accounts for 100% of the product, which of course is rediculous. Gas will be a percentage of the transportation cost for that product. If you buy the product once, the extra cost will be negligable. If you have to buy it frequently the extra cost could be a burden. With products whose costs fluctuate it is always easy for someone to ask if you noticed any difference when an extra tax is added. The thing to remember with the carbon tax is that a litre of gas is always approximately 5 cents more per litre than it would be without the tax. If you want to know what it has cost, you need to keep track of the litres you have purchased since the tax was applied and multiply by 5 cents. Many people would be surprised at how much it adds up to. I know many people who will go out of their way to get to a gas station whose price is a penny or two less. We don't have the option, but I bet almost everybody would go to any gas station selling gas for 5 cents less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Sksman said: So post up a copy of your paystub from before Trudeau and current. Include you gross and net pays. Pretty easy thing for you to do. Common Fail prove your point for once instead of just your regular lip flap day in and day out. Because he works for the gov't his gross has gone up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Sksman said: Okay Fail. Fed rate dropping. Your hero has promised billions in new spending in last few weeks. This is on top of all the other spending and $20billion deficit. How we going to pay for this? Oh yeah I forgot. Tax you a little, give you lots more and five or ten years down the road when Justin Trudeau and his family are again living like fat cats on trust fund and gold plated politician pension money your kids and my kids and then our grand kids will be taxed to death to pay off what you think is free money. At some point someone has to pay for Trudeau’s largeness! Right on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: who is paying for the billions we have owed since forever I am going to say nobody just like every country in the world unless something changes and we raise taxes hugely Andrew promised billions this month too but ONEWAY SEES NOTHING We all are with taxes going towards the increasing debt daily funneling $ away from health & education! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Sksman said: You truly are so simple aren’t you. Distraction crime is the biggest ploy right now. And the Liberal party has youhook line and sinker. A little promise of more and a selfie and while you are glassy eyed they steal your wallet. Bang on again-dumb them down & dope them up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Muskoka1 said: We all are with taxes going towards the increasing debt daily funneling $ away from health & education! You can also say that debt has paid for our Health Care ect either if We run deficits over 80% of the time, its clear we don''t have enough money for what we get in this great country... Cutting all the fluff spending wouldn't put a dent in the problem. Servicing the debt will always be here and most always getting bigger year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, MuskokaGator said: You really are a financial idiot. A product could only go down or up by the same percentage as gas if the gas accounts for 100% of the product, which of course is rediculous. Gas will be a percentage of the transportation cost for that product. If you buy the product once, the extra cost will be negligable. If you have to buy it frequently the extra cost could be a burden. With products whose costs fluctuate it is always easy for someone to ask if you noticed any difference when an extra tax is added. The thing to remember with the carbon tax is that a litre of gas is always approximately 5 cents more per litre than it would be without the tax. If you want to know what it has cost, you need to keep track of the litres you have purchased since the tax was applied and multiply by 5 cents. Many people would be surprised at how much it adds up to. I know many people who will go out of their way to get to a gas station whose price is a penny or two less. We don't have the option, but I bet almost everybody would go to any gas station selling gas for 5 cents less. And PC's used to campaign on removing PST from Fuel but they don't anymore none issue I guess 8% extra every dollar No one even gives this a thought anymore, its just the price of gas today What doesn't Ontario drop the PST 5 points so its a wash with the increase, since this is a job killing economy killing tax (never mind that its the opposite right now) FORD put ONTARIO in TRUDEAU's hands Edited August 30, 2019 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: You can also say that debt has paid for our Health Care ect either if We run deficits over 80% of the time, its clear we don''t have enough money for what we get in this great country... Cutting all the fluff spending wouldn't put a dent in the problem. Servicing the debt will always be here and most always getting bigger year after year. That's why it's a big problem when the economy slows down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: And PC's used to campaign on removing PST from Fuel but they don't anymore none issue I guess 8% extra every dollar No one even gives this a thought anymore, its just the price of gas today What doesn't Ontario drop the PST 5 points so its a wash with the increase, since this is a job killing economy killing tax (never mind that its the opposite right now) FORD put ONTARIO in TRUDEAU's hands Higher taxes hurt job creation/not help it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Muskoka1 said: That's why it's a big problem when the economy slows down! lol what is the deficit limits for a slow down? so far 70 billion under Harper in ONE YEAR we have plenty of room it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Muskoka1 said: Higher taxes hurt job creation/not help it! so record employment isn't real Don't you think your statement is proven wrong today? no denying it Edited August 30, 2019 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskokaGator Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: And PC's used to campaign on removing PST from Fuel but they don't anymore none issue I guess 8% extra every dollar No one even gives this a thought anymore, its just the price of gas today What doesn't Ontario drop the PST 5 points so its a wash with the increase, since this is a job killing economy killing tax (never mind that its the opposite right now) FORD put ONTARIO in TRUDEAU's hands Deflect , deflect, deflect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnloverxtreme2 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: so record employment isn't real Don't you think your statement is proven wrong today? no denying it wonder what the job growth is really? 14 buck minimum wage earners? barely pay any taxes or 40 buck manufacturing, mining, logging etc that do. and are they fulltime jobs? curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 20 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: And PC's used to campaign on removing PST from Fuel but they don't anymore none issue I guess 8% extra every dollar No one even gives this a thought anymore, its just the price of gas today What doesn't Ontario drop the PST 5 points so its a wash with the increase, since this is a job killing economy killing tax (never mind that its the opposite right now) FORD put ONTARIO in TRUDEAU's hands No public transit here-we have to drive everywhere so fuel costs are very important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: lol what is the deficit limits for a slow down? so far 70 billion under Harper in ONE YEAR we have plenty of room it seems For more debt-only an idiot would say that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: so record employment isn't real Don't you think your statement is proven wrong today? no denying it Our unemployment is always at least 2% higher than the U.S.-it could definitely be lower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 hours ago, Muskoka1 said: No public transit here-we have to drive everywhere so fuel costs are very important! so you should be fighting against all taxes not just TRUDEAU's which you clear are doing - this is how a ONEWAY does stuff All FORD and tell him to reduce the costs he is adding also Then call Trudeau with the same complaint and since ONTARIO takes the most start with them You won't because DOUG tells you what to think with his DECAL PROGRAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 hours ago, Muskoka1 said: Our unemployment is always at least 2% higher than the U.S.-it could definitely be lower! Yes it was almost 4% when Trudeau took over - more facts 7.9 down to 5.4 USA saw 4.8 down to 4% when Trump took over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 hours ago, mtnloverxtreme2 said: wonder what the job growth is really? 14 buck minimum wage earners? barely pay any taxes or 40 buck manufacturing, mining, logging etc that do. and are they fulltime jobs? curious almost all jobs created lately are full time according to stats canada Ontario leading the way as usual - so if you have a problem its DOUG's fault now (Wynne is gone so Ontario has to be great now) This is always the argument from the RIGHT and never brought up when the RIGHT is in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Well Justin? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5261713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: so you should be fighting against all taxes not just TRUDEAU's which you clear are doing - this is how a ONEWAY does stuff All FORD and tell him to reduce the costs he is adding also Then call Trudeau with the same complaint and since ONTARIO takes the most start with them You won't because DOUG tells you what to think with his DECAL PROGRAM I'm against all tax increases-period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, Muskoka1 said: I'm against all tax increases-period! but you onlly care abbbout Trudeau's tax, this is clear CALL DOUG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Canada out paces USA in growth again but you all see this as a failure best stretch of 4 years in a very long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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