Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, XC.Morrison said: “Pursuit of happiness” isn’t in the Constitution though. Correct its in the DoI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Highmark said: They practice a more free form of capitalism than we do. Just because they have significant social programs doesn't mean they aren't capitalist. They redistribute wealth, which in turn evens out the inherent inequities of a capitalistic system. Edited July 25, 2019 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Swedes are pretty happy people. capitalists, the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, spin_dry said: They redistribute wealth, which in turn evens out the inherent inequities of a capitalistic system. Not as equal as you think. https://www.ft.com/content/3b9566e4-941a-11e8-b747-fb1e803ee64e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: My "frustration"? The Constitution (or the DoI) was not intended to depict the "correct" economic system but, using the terms of these documents, an outline can be established as to why Capitism is the best fit. Now, it's not perfect...far from it. But, it meets the goals of the majority. Capitalism, BY FAR, permits more happiness than any other system. It also raises more out of poverty and horrid conditions than any other system. It is also the least government oppressive of any other system allowing citizens with desire to work and create their own successes without punishment....this is debatable because of taxes but, capitalism also allows for the most amount of socialistic plans to help others using those taxes so, another plus for the Capitalistic system. Socialism has, by far, become the means for a governing power to interfere with free will and success in those that want it. It puts the power in the hands of the government who then decides who shall "succeed" under it's own terms only if government maintains the power over such. It does this all under the lie of "the greater good". If power corrupts, history shows us that countries entering a purely socialist system easily lead to an completely authoritative regime (socialism/communism is not possible without it) where all power is concentrated in the governing bodies without any recourse by citizens and certainly no unbiased oversight. History has also shown us the mass failures of this system. I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, frenchy said: capitalists, the lot of them. I saw a documentary recently about Sweden. In the 70’s they shifted too far towards socialistic principles, a lot more power for unions and I’m sure tons more I can’t recall off the top of my head. They’ve since restructured and shifted more capitalistic and it’s helped their prosperity a lot. The right balance is everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: I concur. Well, that’s good! But, your “concurrence” also makes me a bit angry!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Not as equal as you think. https://www.ft.com/content/3b9566e4-941a-11e8-b747-fb1e803ee64e Article requires a subscription Sweden has similar wealth distribution to America with a major exception. Free college, excellent public housing and housing assistance. Strict guidelines for landlords and excellent healthcare reimbursement. There’s also well funded public pensions and additional social programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Article requires a subscription Sweden has similar wealth distribution to America with a major exception. Free college, excellent public housing and housing assistance. Strict guidelines for landlords and excellent healthcare reimbursement. There’s also well funded public pensions and additional social programs. Yah all free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 26, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 26, 2019 7 hours ago, spin_dry said: Article requires a subscription Sweden has similar wealth distribution to America with a major exception. Free college, excellent public housing and housing assistance. Strict guidelines for landlords and excellent healthcare reimbursement. There’s also well funded public pensions and additional social programs. You can honestly say with a straight face thats the only differences econimically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, Highmark said: You can honestly say with a straight face thats the only differences econimically? It’s thpinnyvan if he’s talking he’s lying lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 26, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Duke KaBoom said: It’s thpinnyvan if he’s talking he’s lying lol Love the US/Scandinavian country comparisons in the broad sense. Its amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Highmark said: You can honestly say with a straight face thats the only differences econimically? Of course not. They don’t spend money on never ending wars and a trillion dollar military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 26, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Of course not. They don’t spend money on never ending wars and a trillion dollar military. Well I agree there but there is a fuck of a lot more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well I agree there but there is a fuck of a lot more than that. It's because of the white people, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 26, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, motonoggin said: It's because of the white people, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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