Rod Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Spot on https://beinglibertarian.com/no-debate-socialism-capitalism-chiefs-thoughts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Moto triggered and avoids the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 hours ago, DUMPY said: Moto triggered and avoids the topic As usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Name one country where the workers own/owned the means of production. Just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Name one country where the workers own/owned the means of production. Just one. Utopianistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Name one country where the workers own/owned the means of production. Just one. I know of quite of few employee owned companies in the US. I call that capitalism. I don't believe that is really what you want. Edited April 12, 2019 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I know of quite of few employee owned companies in the US. I call that capitalism. I don't believe that is really what you want. I work for one. Limited partnership is an awesome business structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I work for one. Limited partnership is an awesome business structure. What are your means of production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, motonoggin said: What are your means of production? We grow and protect money. I don’t expect you to understand or agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Highmark said: I know of quite of few employee owned companies in the US. I call that capitalism. I don't believe that is really what you want. That's about as close as you'll get to socialism under the dictatorship of capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: We grow and protect money. I don’t expect you to understand or agree. But you don't produce anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, motonoggin said: That's about as close as you'll get to socialism under the dictatorship of capital. So what is your proposal on the workers owning the means of production? Forced upon by whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 56 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Name one country where the workers own/owned the means of production. Just one. Wait... are you saying your ideal society is a fairy tale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, DriftBusta said: I work for one. Limited partnership is an awesome business structure. when they decide your worth of having a piece which lets face the fact like with any company those at the top are keeping the vast majority and are throwing crumbs to those in the field. The general partners will always make the money not the limited partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 That literally makes zero sense moto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, DUMPY said: That literally makes zero sense moto Expect any less from a lifelong teacher? Moral philosopher. Adam Smith FRSA (16 June [O.S. 5 June] 1723[3] – 17 July 1790) was a Scottish economist, philosopher and author as well as a moral philosopher, a pioneer of political economy and a key figure during the Scottish Enlightenment,[4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 14 hours ago, motonoggin said: That sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 It's hilarious to me that Adam Smith himself is dismissed as some sort of socialist. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, DUMPY said: That literally makes zero sense moto If you understood colonialism it does. But the queen didnt allow that in her schools i imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Highmark said: Expect any less from a lifelong teacher? Moral philosopher. Adam Smith FRSA (16 June [O.S. 5 June] 1723[3] – 17 July 1790) was a Scottish economist, philosopher and author as well as a moral philosopher, a pioneer of political economy and a key figure during the Scottish Enlightenment,[4] Just like communism itself. Designed by a guy who literally did nothing, ever. For anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 hours ago, DUMPY said: Wait... are you saying your ideal society is a fairy tale? That's exactly what he is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 hours ago, motonoggin said: But you don't produce anything? We produce a value added service that requires training and licensing to act as a fiduciary for growing and protecting other people’s money. So yes we do produce something. 7 hours ago, Angry ginger said: when they decide your worth of having a piece which lets face the fact like with any company those at the top are keeping the vast majority and are throwing crumbs to those in the field. The general partners will always make the money not the limited partners. We have over 60,000 associates, and the people making north of a million number in the thousands, including the guy who hired me, who went from a limited to a general partner last year. We’ve never had a lay-off in our history. Great culture and promotional track if you want it, but I know most places aren’t like this. They should be. They just installed our first woman managing partner. I think the top five pull down around 55 million between them. I’m not a communist or a sexist, so I’m still pretty ok with that arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 top 5 making 55 million the LP making pennies, sounds tremendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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