Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: The border agents want a wall to fix their problem. Their problem in the grand scheme isn’t the big issue. A wall will help them with their problem and make their lives easier. That isn’t up for debate. The issue really is about what is the best for solving the grand scheme aka the big picture. If this is about stopping drug and people traffic across the non-walled sections, a wall will help. If the issue is where to spend money to stop drug traffic from south of our country and illegal immigration from everywhere, the wall isn’t going to make an impact worth its cost. That problem isn’t about the expanses of non walled territory. It is about visa overstays, drugs entering from legal ports of entry, and the demand for those drugs and illegals. Of course Border Control wants a wall. That makes sense for their little piece of the pie. The problem is the wall doesn’t change the fact that their piece of the pie is insignificant compared to the other issues. Effective at what lol? Stopping drugs? Please tell the class what percent of drugs are coming through non walled sections of our southern border across the desert in backpacks. seriously, you're wasting your time with dumb dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Walls and fences are not effective against hundred billion dollar empires of crime. Correct. Why would those drug lords send drugs in backpacks when they can send a fucking truck load right through a border crossing? They aren’t effective against people that 66% of are coming in legally and becoming illegal due to visa overstays. As effective as a wall is, a ladder is just as effective. Without the manning to quickly respond to a breach, which they don’t have, a wall is a speed bump. Does it make it harder? Sure. Does that level of challenge make it worth $5-20B? Nope. It’s not the problem. The problem is demand. Any fiscal republican that doesn’t see it that way, is not only a fucking idiot, but can’t think for themselves. Walls and fences are effective and being PART of the solution. Are you fucking stupid...or acting this way out of being triggered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: You know what the funniest thing about the "new you" is....watching you run from forum to forum chasing multiple members and calling them names and adding nothing to any debate. Hypocrisy is funny! Jimmy Pouts...the sideline barking buffoon. omg the irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Try answering a question for once in your life like you aren’t a complete fucking moron who just had their whole arguement khashoggi’d... You don't think I can answer? Do you see it? VVVVV 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Never answer a question with a question Derpski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: The border agents want a wall to fix their problem. Their problem in the grand scheme isn’t the big issue. A wall will help them with their problem and make their lives easier. That isn’t up for debate. The issue really is about what is the best for solving the grand scheme aka the big picture. If this is about stopping drug and people traffic across the non-walled sections, a wall will help. If the issue is where to spend money to stop drug traffic from south of our country and illegal immigration from everywhere, the wall isn’t going to make an impact worth its cost. That problem isn’t about the expanses of non walled territory. It is about visa overstays, drugs entering from legal ports of entry, and the demand for those drugs and illegals. Of course Border Control wants a wall. That makes sense for their little piece of the pie. The problem is the wall doesn’t change the fact that their piece of the pie is insignificant compared to the other issues. Effective at what lol? Stopping drugs? Please tell the class what percent of drugs are coming through non walled sections of our southern border across the desert in backpacks. You make very good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: You know what the funniest thing about the "new you" is....watching you run from forum to forum chasing multiple members and calling them names and adding nothing to any debate. Hypocrisy is funny! Jimmy Pouts...the sideline barking buffoon. Really is that what I'm doing......funny but you sound just like Dripper and Woolie....not a good look and what exactly are you adding to anything? I'm against the wall and you say I'm in a hate group......brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: Walls and fences are effective and being PART of the solution. Are you fucking stupid...or acting this way out of being triggered? i love how all of you trumpsters are throwing in "fences" now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: omg the irony Agreed. Hey you fucking idiot. I've long since given you the "three strikes" that I determine as being an unworthy debate opponent. Don't push your fucking luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: i love how all of you trumpsters are throwing in "fences" now. To please you bird brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Walls and fences are effective and being PART of the solution. Are you fucking stupid...or acting this way out of being triggered? Ahhh so disagree with you and not only is someone in a hate group they are also triggered.....more brilliant analysis and debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Really is that what I'm doing......funny but you sound just like Dripper and Woolie....not a good look and what exactly are you adding to anything? I'm against the wall and you say I'm in a hate group......brilliant. Yes. Yes it is what you are doing. You look like a retard. Stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: Walls and fences are effective and being PART of the solution. Are you fucking stupid...or acting this way out of being triggered? There is no other PART of the solution. Only the wall. It is political expediency by this president. The fact you can’t see that is mindboggling. Walls are effective. What don’t you get about this statement is that is not the issue. The issue is this: Are those walls effective enough to justify their cost? No, no they are not. Becuase it is bad money thrown at a loser cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DAVE said: You make very good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: Agreed. Hey you fucking idiot. I've long since given you the "three strikes" that I determine as being an unworthy debate opponent. Don't push your fucking luck Hate to break it you but nobody thinks you are worthy of anything other than making threats and running your piss flaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: There is no other PART of the solution. Only the wall. It is political expediency by this president. The fact you can’t see that is mindboggling. Walls are effective. What don’t you get about this statement is that is not the issue. The issue is this: Are those walls effective enough to justify their cost? No, no they are not. Becuase it is bad money thrown at a loser cause. dumb dave, are these good points too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Ahhh so disagree with you and not only is someone in a hate group they are also triggered.....more brilliant analysis and debate. You started the insults. Sorry you don't like it thrown back at you. JK...not sorry at all. Again, you've seemingly turned into a fucking sad sacking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 7, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 hours ago, jtssrx said: l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Yes. Yes it is what you are doing. You look like a retard. Stop it. OK Minnesota Woolie.....go cry somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: dumb dave, are these good points too? They are....but a wall would mean bp could concentrate on other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 7, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 The DEA has been trying to control drug use from the supply side for 45 yrs. Its time for a new approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: There is no other PART of the solution. Only the wall. It is political expediency by this president. The fact you can’t see that is mindboggling. Walls are effective. What don’t you get about this statement is that is not the issue. The issue is this: Are those walls effective enough to justify their cost? No, no they are not. Becuase it is bad money thrown at a loser cause. This is just fucking stupid. Take it back. Yes...it justifies the cost. 5 bil is nothing. 20 bil is nothing. This isn't about costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: OK Minnesota Woolie.....go cry somewhere else. Lol! Here it is! BTW...Woolie beats the fuck out of you here and next door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You started the insults. Sorry you don't like it thrown back at you. JK...not sorry at all. Again, you've seemingly turned into a fucking sad sacking idiot. Your insults don't bother me in the least....your blinding stupidity on the other hand..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, DAVE said: They are....but a wall would mean bp could concentrate on other areas. as could fencing and other cheaper things. careful now, soon you will be making the same points i was making in the other thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 7, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Lol! Here it is! BTW...Woolie beats the fuck out of you here and next door. Look at you..what a good little cheerleader!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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