Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, ViperGTS/Z1 said: If you were to run a string around the outside diameter of a short lug vs a long lug.....you would use more string on the long lug. Settled I did that last year and posted the pics and measurements!!! I still have the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: If you were to run a string around the outside diameter of a short lug vs a long lug.....you would use more string on the long lug. Settled Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, JEFF said: Damn lugflick... do stiffer lugs have an advantage? There was discussion on thickness of lug. I contended any lug over one atom thick would make a difference in length as far as contact point of the hard surface. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said: If you want in on this we can get it done in NO TIME. Yes or no faggot? There is a technical college in Nashua I believe. If you have the balls to stand up to me, I'll get this going ASAP. All we need is a local lawyer, and a math/geometry instructor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,easy peasy. Are you powerful enough to accept my challenge? Can you stand up to me, away from your keyboard? Don't try to talk your way out of this, can you stand up to me or are you now SCARED SHITLESS??? Yes ...I accept. Let's agree on the wording of the bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: We must define final drive ratio as.... The distance the vehicle travels with one rotation of the drive system input shaft ...ie the PTO of the engine Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: If you want in on this we can get it done in NO TIME. Yes or no faggot? There is a technical college in Nashua I believe. If you have the balls to stand up to me, I'll get this going ASAP. All we need is a local lawyer, and a math/geometry instructor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,easy peasy. Are you powerful enough to accept my challenge? Can you stand up to me, away from your keyboard? Don't try to talk your way out of this, can you stand up to me or are you now SCARED SHITLESS??? How tall are you dipshit? How far from the Manchester airport are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 17, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 17, 2018 No.....1 full rotation of Track. 550 wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: We must define final drive ratio as.... The distance the vehicle travels with one rotation of the drive system input shaft ...ie the PTO of the engine One could argue it depends on how the single rotation lines up with lugs making contact. Recall the small AC voltage riding on the large DC voltage. In any event I do, and did grant that the small impulses from the sweeping lugs average out to 0 impact, it's only comparing the ratio at one moment to the next that a different result would happen. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: No.....1 full rotation of Track. 550 wins Incorrect. But thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: We must define final drive ratio as.... The distance the vehicle travels with one rotation of the drive system input shaft ...ie the PTO of the engine A snowmobile clutch has a constantly varying output, so therefore you must accept the term ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL. THe engine crankshat will be constant, the primary and secondary clutches vary, the jackshat gears and driveshaft gears are constant. For the purposes of this hypothesis we must agree that the clutches are at a constant output. AGREED?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yes ...I accept. Let's agree on the wording of the bet I just posted it a page or two back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said: A snowmobile clutch has a constantly varying output, so therefore you must accept the term ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL. THe engine crankshat will be constant, the primary and secondary clutches vary, the jackshat gears and driveshaft gears are constant. For the purposes of this hypothesis we must agree that the clutches are at a constant output. AGREED?????? Yes...agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Polaris 550 said: I just posted it a page or two back!!! No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: " All other factors being equal, does lug height affect the FINAL DRIVE RATIO on a snowmobile, on a hypothetical, flat hard plane? " I'm waitin'. Here it is AGAIN, you morphodite!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 17, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said: Here it is AGAIN, you morphodite!!! Ok....I will expect my $100. Congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 FINAL DRIVE RATIO is the relationship of the rotation of the crankshaft to the rotation of the track. ( distance travelled ) Example : 1: 1.2 , 1: 2.5, 1: 2.75 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Man Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said: FINAL DRIVE RATIO is the relationship of the rotation of the crankshaft to the rotation of the track. ( distance travelled ) Example : 1: 1.2 , 1: 2.5, 1: 2.75 etc. Outstanding Leader believes that nobody knows more about cranking shafts than Polaris550. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: A snowmobile clutch has a constantly varying output, so therefore you must accept the term ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL. THe engine crankshat will be constant, the primary and secondary clutches vary, the jackshat gears and driveshaft gears are constant. For the purposes of this hypothesis we must agree that the clutches are at a constant output. AGREED?????? So you’re saying you agree that per one turn of the jackshaft, a longer track lug will make the snowmobile move further than a shorter lug? To be perfectly clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 OK, Benny where are ya'???? Let's get this done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: Here it is AGAIN, you morphodite!!! Yes...it needs to be worded slightly better and a little more in depth to be presented to a mechanical engineering firm. I'll be at my laptop in a few hours and we'll work out the exact wording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, JEFF said: So you’re saying you agree that per one turn of the jackshaft, a longer track lug will make the snowmobile move further than a shorter lug? To be perfectly clear? YES!!!! Do you wanna' call a lawyer? I'll call NH VOC TECH, or I'll stop in and try to get a math guy. Don't waste my fukken time if you are not powerful enough to stand up to me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 17, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JEFF said: So you’re saying you agree that per one turn of the jackshaft, a longer track lug will make the snowmobile move further than a shorter lug? To be perfectly clear? No...that always remains constant...any difference in actual diameter will provide further travel....1 full track rotation of a longer lug larger diameter track will travel further than the shorter diameter short lug. Simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rocket Man said: Outstanding Leader believes that nobody knows more about cranking shafts than Polaris550. Hey, that's kinda funny, for a faggot Chink!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: No...that always remains constant...any difference in actual diameter will provide further travel....1 full track rotation of a longer lug larger diameter track will travel further than the shorter diameter short lug. Simple really. Yup...you're right. Let's bet on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: YES!!!! Do you wanna' call a lawyer? I'll call NH VOC TECH, or I'll stop in and try to get a math guy. Don't waste my fukken time if you are not powerful enough to stand up to me!!! We'll pick a fucking engineering firm and pay them to settle the bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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