Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 But the bottom line is until we get health care costs under control health insurance costs ( private and public) will continue to skyrocket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: But the bottom line is until we get health care costs under control health insurance costs ( private and public) will continue to skyrocket. And we are never going to do that while there is profit as the motivator for the industry. We need to come together as a society and decide that caring for people is something that is worth the cost and we can make it a priority to do right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: And we are never going to do that while there is profit as the motivator for the industry. We need to come together as a society and decide that caring for people is something that is worth the cost and we can make it a priority to do right. Are you suggesting the federal gvmt takes control of big pharma ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, steve from amherst said: Are you suggesting the federal gvmt takes control of big pharma ? No ....I'm suggesting that the government places caps on costs of meds related to the research and development cost of that med and that we bargain for those meds as a whole.....not many small groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Also I would fully support the death penalty for anyone convicted of defrauding the health care system for any amount exceeding 10k dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 If we give everyone healthcare no one will want to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: If we give everyone healthcare no one will want to work... I'm trying to be amicable and reasonable with Steve here.......GTFO Edited October 27, 2018 by f7ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Also I would fully support the death penalty for anyone convicted of defrauding the health care system for any amount exceeding 10k dollars Well that alone would save about 60 billion a yr. Estimated of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: If we give everyone healthcare no one will want to work... Why , I don't work for health care. Never had any till 5 yrs ago. Always paid cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 OH Canada. The home of legal weed and cheap scripts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Blizzman said: OH Canada. The home of legal weed and cheap scripts. Do you folks have an opiod problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, steve from amherst said: Do you folks have an opiod problem? It is a growing problem, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 8 hours ago, f7ben said: Sounds like socialism to me ...!!!!!1111 derp derp derp derp derp derp derp Definitely socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Blizzman said: It is a growing problem, yes. Shit is everywhere around here. Rural areas as much as urban. I don't get it. Not that great of a high in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Are you suggesting the federal gvmt takes control of big pharma ? Nope. But health insurance has an incestuous relationship with Corp med. Eliminate health insurance and make medical providers and pharm compete for YOUR business. Health care will get real cheap when it's "cash only" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, steve from amherst said: Shit is everywhere around here. Rural areas as much as urban. I don't get it. Not that great of a high in my opinion. This fentanyl bullshit coming in, in large quantities is the issue IMO. Couldnt tell you about the high. I dont do drugs and even rarely resort to taking as much as an advil unless I eeally have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Do you folks have an opiod problem? Everywhere has an opiod problem. Edited October 27, 2018 by Nazipigdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: Everyone has an opiod problem. I like a good oxy buzz but that shit is no good for you. Fuck them pills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I like a good oxy buzz but that shit is no good for you. Fuck them pills I meant to say everywhere, check edit. But you do your thang bro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: I like a good oxy buzz but that shit is no good for you. Fuck them pills Ive had them a few times for injuries. Sometimes would want to sleep for days. Other times awake all night. I prefer to know what direction Im headed with something. And your right, pills aint good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: I meant to say everywhere, check edit. But you do your thang bro! Anthoney Bordain did a segment on them in New England about a yr ago. They are everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, steve from amherst said: Ive had them a few times for injuries. Sometimes would want to sleep for days. Other times awake all night. I prefer to know what direction Im headed with something. And your right, pills aint good. Yah.....I dont do anything aside from coors lights for recreation but I used to be a bit of a junky when I was a kid. Experienced you might say. I wrecked my back bad and oxy was all that worked for me......fuck that shit. Id rather be healthy than high any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 27, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2018 Big problem is that once the physical addiction gets you it's not so much about the high but the not feeling sick. Fuck all that shit anyhow....Ibuprofen and Excedrin here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, f7ben said: Think about how many are on VA and State plans too........we need to just go to a responsible single payer play On any given night 50K vets sleep on the street and are homeless but the DemonCUNTS want to let in the caravan and set them up with free everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Big problem is that once the physical addiction gets you it's not so much about the high but the not feeling sick. Fuck all that shit anyhow....Ibuprofen and Excedrin here. You have to really get deep in that shit to end up in withdrawal state......Like months and months of abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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