Pipe and fitting price out look from a vender.

[ArcticCrusher]

36 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

So if you quote a job and there is 250k in materials. You put the 250k out to bid to your venders, they won’t honor the 250k quote for so many days?  Say like 90 or 120 days? Most big jobs have a turn in date and a award date. The quote isn’t sitting out there for 9 months. 

That is how my GC's quote jobs.  They also quote jobs and get contracts outside the US.  Does that help?

[Woodtick]

10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

That is how my GC's quote jobs.  They also quote jobs and get contracts outside the US.  Does that help?

That post was directed at Vince,but you get my point where contactors are some what protected by major price increases. We did get bit by a vender in Canada last year. They always included shipping in their quotes. In small print,it said shipping will be quoted  when the order is placed. The salesman placed the order when we were awarded the job, then got hit with 5k in shipping on a small job. I guess all of the MFGs are doing this now in Canada? Laws must have changed?

[ArcticCrusher]

5 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

That post was directed at Vince,but you get my point where contactors are some what protected by major price increases. We did get bit by a vender in Canada last year. They always included shipping in their quotes. In small print,it said shipping will be quoted  when the order is placed. The salesman placed the order when we were awarded the job, then got hit with 5k in shipping on a small job. I guess all of the MFGs are doing this now in Canada? Laws must have changed?

Shipping for us  is at cost and billed separately, pretty standard in the industry.  You know it costs us less to ship to McCormick dock than from the dock to the show booth.  Lol.

[Mileage Psycho]

1 hour ago, Woodtick said:

So if you quote a job and there is 250k in materials. You put the 250k out to bid to your venders, they won’t honor the 250k quote for so many days?  Say like 90 or 120 days? Most big jobs have a turn in date and a award date. The quote isn’t sitting out there for 9 months. 

Pipe, and wire pricing changes weekly and we do our best to anticipate price increases at bid time as do most quality contractors, most vendors will hold pricing for 60 days on commodities but unless there is a hold for release PO pricing will move, fixtures are another story and there pricing will hold for 90 to 120 days, but that's all dependent on the manu, are there times where we just eat the increase, or the distributor eats it, or the manu eats it? Of course, then there are times where we spread it out amongst the three, but I can't ever remember an owner stepping up.

I have seen many projects go out several months from bid to award, an example that happened today, we got a call that project we bid in July is over budget and the owner (a large nationwide theater concern) wants to start after January 1 due to internal corporate budgeting issues, we were asked if we would honor our pricing, knowing we were #2 at bid time and that #3 was within 2% of us we said yes.

[Woodtick]

7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Shipping for us  is at cost and billed separately, pretty standard in the industry.  You know it costs us less to ship to McCormick dock than from the dock to the show booth.  Lol.

McCormick deserves its own thread. Hands down, the most corrupt building in the world! 

[Woodtick]

11 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Pipe, and wire pricing changes weekly and we do our best to anticipate price increases at bid time as do most quality contractors, most vendors will hold pricing for 60 days on commodities but unless there is a hold for release PO pricing will move, fixtures are another story and there pricing will hold for 90 to 120 days, but that's all dependent on the manu, are there times where we just eat the increase, or the distributor eats it, or the manu eats it? Of course, then there are times where we spread it out amongst the three, but I can't ever remember an owner stepping up.

I have seen many projects go out several months from bid to award, an example that happened today, we got a call that project we bid in July is over budget and the owner (a large nationwide theater concern) wants to start after January 1 due to internal corporate budgeting issues, we were asked if we would honor our pricing, knowing we were #2 at bid time and that #3 was within 2% of us we said yes.

Agreed.

[Woodtick]

A year doesn’t go by with out some mob guy getting busted  in that place @ArcticCrusher. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-teamster-union-boss-indicted-extortion-met-20170712-story.html

[racinfarmer]

12 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

McCormick deserves its own thread. Hands down, the most corrupt building in the world! 

I've heard the stories from our marketing staff.  Sounds almost insane, until you hear them from pretty much everyone else who is at a show there.  

[Woodtick]

3 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

I've heard the stories from our marketing staff.  Sounds almost insane, until you hear them from pretty much everyone else who is at a show there.  

I will give you a few examples . 25 docks open. Two blocks of non union drivers lined up waiting to unload. A teamster driver drives right past the line, pulls in and is unloaded in minutes. You have to be a teamster to operate a hand truck in the place.  My wife just paid $50 to park there to go see a concert . They are more greasy than the Vatican.

[AKIQPilot]

1 hour ago, racinfarmer said:

You get all set up with spandex and helmets too?

Haha. No. Just a multi tool, shorts and a T shirt. I might get some spandex though. Probably never get a helmet.   

[racinfarmer]

53 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

I will give you a few examples . 25 docks open. Two blocks of non union drivers lined up waiting to unload. A teamster driver drives right past the line, pulls in and is unloaded in minutes. You have to be a teamster to operate a hand truck in the place.  My wife just paid $50 to park there to go see a concert . They are more greasy than the Vatican.

Sounds like loading out at Deere.  

51 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Haha. No. Just a multi tool, shorts and a T shirt. I might get some spandex though. Probably never get a helmet.   

Get a small bike bag and a hand air pump too.  Should run about $50 for the pair.

Edited October 17, 2018 by racinfarmer

[AKIQPilot]

36 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

Sounds like loading out at Deere.  

Get a small bike bag and a hand air pump too.  Should run about $50 for the pair.

Yep. I was just at the Giant dealer here in Havasu. They have all kinda of cool accessories. Im likely gonna put a rear rqck of some sort on it. They make somve very cool ones.