Another huge ship full of US soybeans docks and unloads its product despite tariffs that the Chinese people have to pay for when they eat. 2nd ship this week to unload despite the tariffs. Brazil is prolly running out of beans so China has to buy US

[BOHICA]

Winning by president trump!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-soybeans/another-vessel-carrying-us-soybeans-docks-at-chinas-dalian-port-idUSKBN1L112R

Edited August 16, 2018 by BOHICA

[JEFF]

Exactly. People don't get it. China needs to eat. We don't need  widgets. 

 

 

OMG conduit is up 30%!!!!

[Mainecat]

We will pay bigley

[frenchy]

1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

We will pay bigley

why? You love tariffs. Remember? 

[BOHICA]

2 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

We will pay bigley

Yes American wages are expensive to consumers.  iPhones might cost 1300$ if built by Americans 

Edited August 16, 2018 by BOHICA

[f7ben]

5 minutes ago, frenchy said:

why? You love tariffs. Remember? 

You should hear his retarded fucking excuses for this shameless retardation he spews

[Dave]

13 minutes ago, JEFF said:

Exactly. People don't get it. China needs to eat. We don't need  widgets. 

 

 

OMG conduit is up 30%!!!!

Speaking of conduit...wheres ballsack been?

[frenchy]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

You should hear his retarded fucking excuses for this shameless retardation he spews

I did. You need to be a real coward not to own your words on something you used to be so passionate about. 

[f7ben]

10 minutes ago, frenchy said:

I did. You need to be a real coward not to own your words on something you used to be so passionate about. 

But but but.....he never supported tariffs on raw materials....just finished goods

what a fucking retard

[ActionfigureJoe]

Meanwhile American industry continues to buy aluminum and steel at inflated prices. Which in turn is passed on to the American consumer. Trump economics. 

[f7ben]

2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Meanwhile American industry continues to buy aluminum and steel at inflated prices. Which in turn is passed on to the American consumer. Trump economics. 

Nope....what should be said is 

Meanwhile American steel and aluminum capacity is increasing and domestic producers are creating jobs and jnvestings in our economy

Take your bullshit and go fuck yourself with it you asshole

[BOHICA]

5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Meanwhile American industry continues to buy aluminum and steel at inflated prices. Which in turn is passed on to the American consumer. Trump economics. 

Typical liberal....  likes him some third world slave labor products with no environmental oversight as these emerging worlds dump shit in the oceans at an alarming pace.   Things cost more when made in America and it’s ok.

[Angry ginger]

3 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Meanwhile American industry continues to buy aluminum and steel at inflated prices. Which in turn is passed on to the American consumer. Trump economics. 

well there has to be some pain in a trade war, better that pain happens in a booming economy than a slow one as it can easily be absorbed.  Sure it sucks if it effects you individually but the job of the president is to worry about the whole picture not just a small piece.  Assuming he gets these other countries to give in it will end of he day be worth any small amount that it cost us. if it drags on it may be too late for some companies and their workers though, using Harley as an example once they commit to the spend to build big bike production lines in Europe for the overseas markets no real reason to leave that production here even if ultimately the tarrifs are lifted.     

[SnowRider]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

Typical liberal....  likes him some third world slave labor products with no environmental oversight as these emerging worlds dump shit in the oceans at an alarming pace.   Things cost more when made in America and it’s ok.

Dumps environmental policy is third world 

[BOHICA]

1 minute ago, SnowRider said:

Dumps environmental policy is third world 

Nope.

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

well there has to be some pain in a trade war, better that pain happens in a booming economy than a slow one as it can easily be absorbed.  Sure it sucks if it effects you individually but the job of the president is to worry about the whole picture not just a small piece.  Assuming he gets these other countries to give in it will end of he day be worth any small amount that it cost us. if it drags on it may be too late for some companies and their workers though, using Harley as an example once they commit to the spend to build big bike production lines in Europe for the overseas markets no real reason to leave that production here even if ultimately the tarrifs are lifted.     

Europe’s bike will come from third world countries that Harley set up factories in a few years ago.  Using tariff’s as an excuse was easy for Harley even though the tariffs have nothing to do with Harley reallocating their production

[Angry ginger]

2 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Europe’s bike will come from third world countries that Harley set up factories in a few years ago.  Using tariff’s as an excuse was easy for Harley even though the tariffs have nothing to do with Harley reallocating their production

i'll disagree to a point,  clearly they were not going to build streets,  sportsters and the other small bikes they are rolling out here.  To do so for foreign consumption would be stupid but there was no reason before tarrifs to not export the baggers vs building production over there.   Volume will never be high enough to have justified it prior to tarrifs and thats their real money maker not selling street 500's to india and SE asia.   

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

i'll disagree to a point,  clearly they were not going to build streets,  sportsters and the other small bikes they are rolling out here.  To do so for foreign consumption would be stupid but there was no reason before tarrifs to not export the baggers vs building production over there.   Volume will never be high enough to have justified it prior to tarrifs and thats their real money maker not selling street 500's to india and SE asia.   

I disagree in the fact that they built factories abroad while they cut production and closed up factories in the US.  They were just doing the slow walk of moving assembly out of the US but the tariffs allowed them to jump on board and try to save face on the move

[Angry ginger]

2 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

I disagree in the fact that they built factories abroad while they cut production and closed up factories in the US.  They were just doing the slow walk of moving assembly out of the US but the tariffs allowed them to jump on board and try to save face on the move

They built lines in india  to build streets and sporters which are low to no profit bikes.  The street line failed miserably here so their plant closing/shift made complete sense.  Building in the market you sell in makes the most sense if your selling volume,  the jap and euro car manufacturers are not here because they prefer to employ Americans- they are here because shipping costs make it financially make sense. Harley is doing the right thing IMO. the bagger line could absorb shipping costs but not tariffs. 

[BOHICA]

1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

They built lines in india  to build streets and sporters which are low to no profit bikes.  The street line failed miserably here so their plant closing/shift made complete sense.  Building in the market you sell in makes the most sense if your selling volume,  the jap and euro car manufacturers are not here because they prefer to employ Americans- they are here because shipping costs make it financially make sense. Harley is doing the right thing IMO. the bagger line could absorb shipping costs but not tariffs. 

So you agree then that the tariffs were Harley’s scape goat on moving some production overseas for foreign production that was planned all along.  Closing a recent factory in the US and building a factory in Thailand was not because of tariffs.

[Snake]

They got food to eat!

Good on us.

[BOHICA]

Millions upon millions of bushels of US soybeans unloaded in China despite tariffs!!!!!  Winning!!!

[frenchy]

14 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

So you agree then that the tariffs were Harley’s scape goat on moving some production overseas for foreign production that was planned all along.  Closing a recent factory in the US and building a factory in Thailand was not because of tariffs.

no, but moving additional production there was. 

[BOHICA]

1 minute ago, frenchy said:

no, but moving additional production there was. 

It was an excuse.

[frenchy]

Just now, BOHICA said:

It was an excuse.

yes, of course, it was all a big ruse.