Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 Interesting assessment. Not saying I agree or disagree but he's got a point. Constitutional expert and "Life, Liberty & Levin" host Mark Levin said on "Hannity" that new revelations about Robert Mueller's investigation into President Donald Trump and alleged Russian collusion appear to render the probe unconstitutional. Levin said a new "special status" given to several of Mueller's prosecutors in the arm of the probe involving former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort may be key to invalidating the entire investigation. Levin said the attorneys in the case before an Alexandria, Va. federal judge are simultaneously considered "Special Assistant U.S. Attorneys." He said that therefore, their direct supervisor -- Mueller -- should be lawfully considered a "roving" U.S. Attorney. He said the Constitution designates the president as the person who must nominate all "principal officers" -- including U.S. attorneys and cabinet members. But, Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and was not confirmed by the Senate, as anyone working as a U.S. attorney should be by law, according to Levin. Levin said that the scenario therefore "violates the Constitution [via] the Appointments Clause" in Article II. "Rosenstein usurped the authority of the president of the United States to nominate whoever he wants as a prosecutor," Levin said. "Mr. Mueller is serving unconstitutionally in violation of the Appointments Clause of the U.S. Constitution because of the way Rod Rosenstein appointed him." Levin called on every defendant in the Mueller probe and all attorneys for those subpoenaed or affected to raise the issue of the Appointments Clause in court. "The breadth of his investigation is so massive, so broad [that] four of his own people get dual appointments [as assistant U.S. attorneys]," he added. Watch more above. http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/22/robert-mueller-probe-unconstitutional-mark-levin-says-trump-russia-collusion-case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 So you (And Levin) think that the President should appoint investigators to investigate him? Oh, okay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Highmark said: Interesting assessment. Not saying I agree or disagree but he's got a point. 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: So you (And Levin) think that the President should appoint investigators to investigate him? Oh, okay... I'd like to see more regarding this. There have been many debates around the constitutionality of these types of investigations. I think the point Levin is trying to make is maybe they shouldn't be (and maybe they aren't) US attorney's because if they are it should follow the same Constitutional standards. In other words it should be outside the DOJ (not be assigned by the POTUS or DOJ and not report to the DOJ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: I'd like to see more regarding this. There have been many debates around the constitutionality of these types of investigations. I think the point Levin is trying to make is maybe they shouldn't be (and maybe they aren't) US attorney's because if they are it should follow the same Constitutional standards. In other words it should be outside the DOJ (not be assigned by the POTUS or DOJ and not report to the DOJ) This is a horrible argument. Whatever the facts are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Levin and Fox News lmao GMAFB Total bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: This is a horrible argument. Whatever the facts are. Whatever the facts are. Who gives a shit about the constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Levin and Fox News lmao GMAFB Total bullshit Nooks obsessed with Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nooks obsessed with Trump. It’s better than House of Cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nooks obsessed with Trump. Icepeeps emotional connection to all this is just bizarre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, Highmark said: Whatever the facts are. Who gives a shit about the constitution. Yes, appointing your own prosecutor to investigate yourself is a conflict of interest. You dont need to be a constitutional scholar to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 "bombshell" and Levin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nooks obsessed with Trump. why don't you ever say that to sludgebrain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: why don't you ever say that to sludgebrain? Who is that? Momo? I have said that to him in the past. Edited May 23, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Yes, appointing your own prosecutor to investigate yourself is a conflict of interest. You dont need to be a constitutional scholar to see that. You mean like the DOJ does with its IG or if another special counsel is started to investigate the handling of the Clinton and Trump investigations? I think that is Levin's point. None of this should be under the jurisdiction of the DOJ. Who should it be? The issue is they hire someone supposedly outside the DOJ when in fact many really aren't. Edited May 23, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: You mean like the DOJ does with its IG or if another special counsel is started to investigate the handling of the Clinton and Trump investigations? I think that is Levin's point. None of this should be under the jurisdiction of the DOJ. Who should it be? Pull a name out of a hat at this point. Like I said, shit show... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 23, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Pull a name out of a hat at this point. Like I said, shit show... Levin's point. If he has the powers of a US attorney then really isn't he one? The constitution is clear on this. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39961732 What powers does he have? The special counsel has the powers of a US attorney - meaning he can subpoena records and bring criminal charges. And he has done so. Edited May 23, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Levin's point. If he has the powers of a US attorney then really isn't he one? The constitution is clear on this. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39961732 What powers does he have? The special counsel has the powers of a US attorney - meaning he can subpoena records and bring criminal charges. And he has done so. Appoint Hillary Clinton! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Icepeeps emotional connection to all this is just bizarre It's like his life depends on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: You mean like the DOJ does with its IG or if another special counsel is started to investigate the handling of the Clinton and Trump investigations? I think that is Levin's point. None of this should be under the jurisdiction of the DOJ. Who should it be? The issue is they hire someone supposedly outside the DOJ when in fact many really aren't. The special prosecutor is far too politically charged for a case like this but by design this was the point when the investigation was opened. It should be the job of an independent council who do not answer to anyone inside the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 That’s it. It’s over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That’s it. It’s over. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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