Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/He-Never-Went-In-BSO-Suspends-Officer-Who-Was-at-Parkland-Shooting-474889753.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 so the trained officer, who had a gun, in a unform, puckered up and didn't "go in" kind of gives this "armed teacher" nonsense a good kick in the ass eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 that dude sounds like a lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: so the trained officer, who had a gun, in a unform, puckered up and didn't "go in" kind of gives this "armed teacher" nonsense a good kick in the ass eh? Yeah, just saw that. What a pussy. And no, it doesn’t give the teacher idea any “kick”. Some don’t know how they will react when the elephant shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Yeah, just saw that. What a pussy. And no, it doesn’t give the teacher idea any “kick”. Some don’t know how they will react when the elephant shows up. armed teachers present more problems than they'd solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: armed teachers present more problems than they'd solve. How do deterrents present problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: How do deterrents present problems? well obviously the "deterrent" in this situation didn't do shit, in several ways. it didn't deter the kid from coming in, nor did it stop him once he went in. so picture thousands of teachers with guns. the odds of bad things happening (wrong people getting shot, confusion when cops arrive, teacher's gun getting stolen etc) increase considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: armed teachers present more problems than they'd solve. Not if they are armed with part time automatics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, MiSledder said: Not if they are armed with part time automatics :zzz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: well obviously the "deterrent" in this situation didn't do shit, in several ways. it didn't deter the kid from coming in, nor did it stop him once he went in. so picture thousands of teachers with guns. the odds of bad things happening (wrong people getting shot, confusion when cops arrive, teacher's gun getting stolen etc) increase considerably. Look, if you want to protect the kids in the most expedient way, it’s armed deterrents. Only a small amount of teachers would chose this option...and those are the ones we should consider. Personally, I prefer an armed LEO or two at the main entrance. That’s what our HS has and I know one fairly well...or I should say he knows me. He’s a good one. If you are pushing for “ban” to protect children, you really aren’t giving a shit about the children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Look, if you want to protect the kids in the most expedient way, it’s armed deterrents. Only a small amount of teachers would chose this option...and those are the ones we should consider. Personally, I prefer an armed LEO or two at the main entrance. That’s what our HS has and I know one fairly well...or I should say he knows me. He’s a good one. If you are pushing for “ban” to protect children, you really aren’t giving a shit about the children. i like that idea better. but look at what happened in fla with their deterrent. i dont have the perfect answer, because there isn't one. but i dont see a problem with extending the purchase age to 21, better security checks, longer waits. ive said that enough lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Look, if you want to protect the kids in the most expedient way, it’s armed deterrents. Only a small amount of teachers would chose this option...and those are the ones we should consider. Personally, I prefer an armed LEO or two at the main entrance. That’s what our HS has and I know one fairly well...or I should say he knows me. He’s a good one. If you are pushing for “ban” to protect children, you really aren’t giving a shit about the children. School i graduated from has a cop there full time for the last 10 yrs i know of and can you believe no one has over powered her and shot up the place? Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i like that idea better. but look at what happened in fla with their deterrent. i dont have the perfect answer, because there isn't one. but i dont see a problem with extending the purchase age to 21, better security checks, longer waits. ive said that enough lately. How about all the above then? Is the goal to protect our students from these whack jobs we’ve created or to push a political agenda? Let’s agree it’s the first part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, MiSledder said: School i graduated from has a cop there full time for the last 10 yrs i know of and can you believe no one has over powered her and shot up the place? Crazy catholic girl school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted February 23, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, MiSledder said: School i graduated from has a cop there full time for the last 10 yrs i know of and can you believe no one has over powered her and shot up the place? Crazy You graduated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: so the trained officer, who had a gun, in a unform, puckered up and didn't "go in" kind of gives this "armed teacher" nonsense a good kick in the ass eh? Gunfire is a strange thing. Real gunfire. Stuff you know is aimed at another human. Some people can’t cope with it. Nothing against him, he just chose the wrong profession. Unfortunately you don’t know until you know. The poor guy has to live with his inaction for the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Gunfire is a strange thing. Real gunfire. Stuff you know is aimed at another human. Some people can’t cope with it. Nothing against him, he just chose the wrong profession. Unfortunately you don’t know until you know. The poor guy has to live with his inaction for the rest of his life. When you have the badge and the gun , you have to go in . No matter how scared you are , you have to go in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Gunfire is a strange thing. Real gunfire. Stuff you know is aimed at another human. Some people can’t cope with it. Nothing against him, he just chose the wrong profession. Unfortunately you don’t know until you know. The poor guy has to live with his inaction for the rest of his life. yeah i was thinking about that. the whole nation knows about it too. Edited February 23, 2018 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 the article said they have video of him too. i wonder what he was actually doing? running? hiding? eating doughnuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: When you have the badge and the gun , you have to go in . No matter how scared you are , you have to go in It’s not that easy. I knew some serious tough guys who could whip the piss out of most, but when it came to actual death they just couldn’t perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: When you have the badge and the gun , you have to go in . No matter how scared you are , you have to go in Some can’t. It is what it is. It’s a horrifying way to find out you are in the wrong profession. 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: yeah i was thinking about that. the whole nation knows about it too. Yeah, brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: yeah i was thinking about that. the whole nation knows about it too. I feel for the guy. He didn’t know that’s how he’d react. Now he’s a coward to the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I feel for the guy. He didn’t know that’s how he’d react. Now he’s a coward to the world. yeah me too. poor sap likely thought he was on easy street and then this happens. wouldn't be surprised if he off's himself in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I feel for the guy. He didn’t know that’s how he’d react. Now he’s a coward to the world. Well, he’s far from being alone. He’s just gonna be in the spotlight for a while...and I think it’s gonna get awfully bright for a bit. If he owns a rock, it may be a good time to set up house under it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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