Zambroski Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) I think the only way you're gonna start seeing better returns on savings and cd's is higher loan interest rates. It all ties in to real job and business growth. And until the Dems either quit pandering to "America's disenchanted"or we get a pro-business republican administration, NOBODY is going to grow more than they have to. It's not worth it right now. real job growth doesn't happen at "Joe's cafe" and the corner coffee shop. Edited May 28, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: Hippy pansy, liberal idiot, typical left wing brainless banter....yep you answered plenty. He is talking about Trump, he has the same view of the Iraq war as I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: I think the only way you're gonna start seeing better returns on savings and cd's is higher loan interest rates. It all ties in to real job and business growth. And until the Dems either quit pandering to "America's disenchanted"or we get a pro-business republican administration, NOBODY is going to grow more than they have to. It's not worth it right now. real job growth doesn't happen at "Joe's cafe" and the corner coffee shop. Yeah it's a false economy right now. But hey Greenspan did keep inflation super low with his rates...course Barry helped also by keeping job growth low. You know small business are the back bone of the economy though right? Edited May 29, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 42 minutes ago, 1jkw said: He is talking about Trump, he has the same view of the Iraq war as I do. I guess he can count on your vote then? Or do you just discuss topics that have nothing to do with the way you vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 29, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: I guess he can count on your vote then? Or do you just discuss topics that have nothing to do with the way you vote? Are there discussion rules here you would like to fill us all in on Racer? I was kind of hoping that in light of the new FS you would leave the idiocy behind....I am so disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: Are there discussion rules here you would like to fill us all in on Racer? I was kind of hoping that in light of the new FS you would leave the idiocy behind....I am so disappointed. No discussion rules, but if you are going to try and paint the debate like trump is for what the poster was for, in an attempt for a gotcha moment, then why not vote for the guy? 1kjw and trump feel the same about the iraq war. GREAT, vote for trump then! Edited May 29, 2016 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Trump should give out 14k gold phones to the working middle class...that's what I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 29, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: No discussion rules, but if you are going to try and paint the debate like trump is for what the poster was for, in an attempt for a gotcha moment, then why not vote for the guy? So he agrees with Trumps assessment of the Iraq War which by the way anybody with a functioning brain cell sees as a colossal fuck up so he has to vote for him...well played Karl Rove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, racer254 said: I guess he can count on your vote then? Or do you just discuss topics that have nothing to do with the way you vote? Yep. Unless HC goes to jail and they draft in someone like Mark Cuban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: No discussion rules, but if you are going to try and paint the debate like trump is for what the poster was for, in an attempt for a gotcha moment, then why not vote for the guy? Trump has stated the exact same things I have, so if I'm a libtard so is he. Doesn't that seem fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 29, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 minute ago, 1jkw said: Trump has stated the exact same things I have, so if I'm a libtard so is he. Doesn't that seem fair? Racers head just exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: Racers head just exploded. It really makes me wonder how anyone can be so against and offended by what one person says and so in love with someone else who says the exact same thing, ponderous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Capt.Storm said: Yeah it's a false economy right now. But hey Greenspan did keep inflation super low with his rates...course Barry helped also by keeping job growth low. You know small business are the back bone of the economy though right? What's false Cappy? Is it the guys on this website buying new trucks, sleds, homes, etc....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 29, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: What's false Cappy? Is it the guys on this website buying new trucks, sleds, homes, etc....? Wondering myself....on the old FS and now this one there are guys ordering new sleds, getting jobs at brokerage firms, new houses, renovations, boats, camps, ect..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: Wondering myself....on the old FS and now this one there are guys ordering new sleds, getting jobs at brokerage firms, new houses, renovations, boats, camps, ect..... That's what I'm talking about Jim, these same guys are also saying how bad things are yet it sounds like there life is good, WTF is up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Not saying people are not doing good. The feds are keeping things ok with the low interest rates no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Smart gal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: That's what I'm talking about Jim, these same guys are also saying how bad things are yet it sounds like there life is good, WTF is up with that? How many times have we said sledding is an expensive sport? Dropping $15 large on a sled this fall, and every trip I take is $250 minimum. Why do you expect that people of moderate to high means of wealth (avid sledders) are in one place on the internet? If this were a Frisbee Golf forum you may have a point.... but don't go to a country club wondering why you can't get a good opinion on what grease to use in a deep fryer. Think that just might be What The Fuck is up with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, Snake said: How many times have we said sledding is an expensive sport? Dropping $15 large on a sled this fall, and every trip I take is $250 minimum. Why do you expect that people of moderate to high means of wealth (avid sledders) are in one place on the internet? If this were a Frisbee Golf forum you may have a point.... but don't go to a country club wondering why you can't get a good opinion on what grease to use in a deep fryer. Think that just might be What The Fuck is up with that? Chicken dinner! America as a whole is not doing well at all. Better than it was, but still extremely slow growth due to our current administrations bungling of policies. AGAIN...right back to the thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The economy overall is doing quite well, when you consider 7 or 8 years ago the auto industry was bankrupt, last year was the all time record high for autos in the US and still doing well. The strength of the US dollar is a double edge sword, while it gives US consumers buying power and helps keep energy costs lower, it also makes our exports more expensive and with the poor economy in China, Japan and most of Europe it lowers the demand for our products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 7:30 PM, 1jkw said: It really makes me wonder how anyone can be so against and offended by what one person says and so in love with someone else who says the exact same thing, ponderous. I don't care what people say. I care about what they do. Liberals of this world seem to mostly worried about what people say vs what they have done and that is why I normally don't associate with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On May 29, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Zambroski said: Chicken dinner! America as a whole is not doing well at all. Better than it was, but still extremely slow growth due to our current administrations bungling of policies. AGAIN...right back to the thread title. But the thread title is wrong. Every President since Nixon has had less than 3% GDP growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ebsell said: But the thread title is wrong. Every President since Nixon has had less than 3% GDP growth I know that is incorrect. You sure you are looking at the right models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, racer254 said: I don't care what people say. I care about what they do. Liberals of this world seem to mostly worried about what people say vs what they have done and that is why I normally don't associate with them. So we are clear you say I'm a liberal because, I think Iraq was the biggest policy mistake the US has made, exactly what Trump said, I'm a liberal because I said we were lied to about the WMD's just exactly like Trump. You said that the financial crisis of 2007-2008 wasn't the worst since the depression. You said it was my liberal type that say that, I guess the Wall Street Journal is now liberal and so is every other financial and economic advisor in the country. Please name one other time since the depression, that the auto industry was going under, people were loosing their jobs, homes, retirements at the same rate and the FEDIC raised the insurance level on deposits. If you want to debate do it with facts, not name calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 At no point in his time did the SCoaMF® have 3% GDP. Others yes... http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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