Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 20, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: 6.1% for me. Post up 2016 though, there was a huge slide and recovery right at the end of 2015 and early in 2016. Neal 1/25/13 13,895.98 1/20/17 19,827.25 1/20/18 26,071.72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snake said: So 14%. Pretty damn good. Over 10% average from 14-16, also damn good. Seems Obama did damn good for your portfolio actually. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: 6.1% for me. Post up 2016 though, there was a huge slide and recovery right at the end of 2015 and early in 2016. Neal 1st quarter 4% 2nd 1.5% 3rd -8% 4th 6.1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: So 14%. Pretty damn good. Over 10% average from 14-16, also damn good. Seems Obama did damn good for your portfolio actually. Neal HE gave me 6% over 10 months in 2016. THE TRUMP EFFECT gave me 8% in a month and a half. Yuh, thanks Obama.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: 1/25/13 13,895.98 1/20/17 19,827.25 1/20/18 26,071.72 S&P during Trump's first year 23.6% S&P during Obama's first year 35.3% Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: S&P during Trump's first year 23.6% S&P during Obama's first year 35.3% Neal Thanks Bush! Amirite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Snake said: HE gave me 6% over 10 months in 2016. THE TRUMP EFFECT gave me 8% in a month and a half. Yuh, thanks Obama.... You can find a way to paint every little minor movement during a certain year from Obama, however he still gave you 10% per annum return. Shall we go back further and look at the returns across his whole tenure? Point is Obama did pretty damn good on investment returns, if that's how we are going to play the game. Something that must pain you to state. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 9:25 AM, f7ben said: Except the right didnt have a massive complicit media machine exacerbating the smears and character assassinations at every step. I hate Trump but what we are witnessing now is far past tit for tat and its fucking disgusting. Obama had Fox news up his ass......Trump has the entirety of the media complex spewing negativity and vitriol. Trump has brought every ounce of negativity on to himself. He deserves it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Snake said: Thanks Bush! Amirite? If you wanna thank Obama for this first year of Trump term than sure.... Man is it funny how much it must chap your ass that Obama did well for your investment returns. You have to bend yourself and your portfolio into pretzels to avoid any credit or positive admittance. Just try the phrase, "My investments did well under Obama, and are doing well under Trump." Neal Edited January 20, 2018 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: If you wanna thank Obama for this first year of Trump term than sure.... Man is it funny how much it must chap your ass that Obama did well for your investment returns. You have to bend yourself and your portfolio into pretzels to avoid and credit or positive admittance. Just try the phrase, "My investments did well under Obama, and are doing well under Trump." Neal How much of that can we pin on QE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Snake said: How much of that can we pin on QE? See if you wanna head down the road of sluff it can be done! Same percentage that can be pinned on a $1.6T tax giveaway... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: HCAIX Neal Pretty good fund, expenses are a little high, and I hope thats not the only fund you're in 8 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You can find a way to paint every little minor movement during a certain year from Obama, however he still gave you 10% per annum return. Shall we go back further and look at the returns across his whole tenure? Point is Obama did pretty damn good on investment returns, if that's how we are going to play the game. Something that must pain you to state. Neal Stick to things you know about. Getting the stock back to pre recession levels isn't nearly as impressive as all the new highs the market has hit in the past year. Best single year since 1947. 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Trump has brought every ounce of negativity on to himself. He deserves it all. Fine, then by extension, he deserves the credit for the economy getting jumpstarted, all the trillions made in the stock market and repatriated from overseas. Oh, and thanks for that 2400 our household will be saving this year on taxes. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: See if you wanna head down the road of sluff it can be done! Same percentage that can be pinned on a $1.6T tax giveaway... Neal So you've devolved from facts to conjecture. I accept your capitulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Snake said: How much of that can we pin on QE? Ding Ding Ding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: See if you wanna head down the road of sluff it can be done! Same percentage that can be pinned on a $1.6T tax giveaway... Neal Most of the gains were made well before the tax deal was finalized. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: See if you wanna head down the road of sluff it can be done! Same percentage that can be pinned on a $1.6T tax giveaway... Neal Keeping more of the money you earned is not a giveaway. I don’t agree with that wording at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Pretty good fund, expenses are a little high, and I hope thats not the only fund you're in Stick to things you know about. Getting the stock back to pre recession levels isn't nearly as impressive as all the new highs the market has hit in the past year. Best single year since 1947. Fine, then by extension, he deserves the credit for the economy getting jumpstarted, all the trillions made in the stock market and repatriated from overseas. Oh, and thanks for that 2400 our household will be saving this year on taxes. Yay! I'm into it a bit, but I'm diversified to other holdings too. I know a decent amount about it. I would say they are equally as good, if not being the recession ending performance being better. Also Obama's performance went well beyond recovery, to very good performance overall. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Snake said: So you've devolved from facts to conjecture. I accept your capitulation. You started it man, I told you that's how it would go. Your capitulation on Obama, mine on Trump. It can devolved forever just like that. Fact is the market did very well under Obama and you can't admit that, laughable. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Edmo said: Keeping more of the money you earned is not a giveaway. I don’t agree with that wording at all. You misunderstood, it's a giveaway from the federal government perspective. There is no avenue to pay this bill. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Most of the gains were made well before the tax deal was finalized. Next. It needn't be before it was finalized. The benefits to the wealthy/corporations were known well ahead of time. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You misunderstood, it's a giveaway from the federal government perspective. There is no avenue to pay this bill. Neal Would record revenues taxes from explosive growth do the trick? Would CUTTING SPENDING do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It needn't be before it was finalized. The benefits to the wealthy/corporations were known well ahead of time. Neal "The Trump Effect." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You misunderstood, it's a giveaway from the federal government perspective. There is no avenue to pay this bill. Neal No avenue? How about increased revenue from economic growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 20, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Snake said: Would record revenues taxes from explosive growth do the trick? Would CUTTING SPENDING do the trick? Yes , lets start with giving away money to people who don't like us and have nothing to offer us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You misunderstood, it's a giveaway from the federal government perspective. There is no avenue to pay this bill. Neal Think of the economy as a giant motor, and the federal government just had the jetting leaned out a click. More hp, better running motor. Stronger economy. Now business and consumers are going to keep more of their money, thus investing more into the economy. And the government revenues will also rise. At least thats the theory. Lets see next couple years. Edited January 20, 2018 by DriftBusta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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