Shithole, shithole, shithole, shithole, shithole, shithole, shithole...

[motonoggin]

Chile

When Salvador Allende became President in 1970, President Nixon promised to"make the economy scream" in Chile. The U.S., Chile's largest trading partner, cut off trade to cause shortages and economic chaos. The CIA and State Department had conducted sophisticated propaganda operations in Chile for a decade, funding conservative politicians, parties, unions, student groups and all forms of media, while expanding ties with the military. After General Pinochet seized power, the CIA kept Chilean officials on its payroll and worked closely with Chile's DINA intelligence agency as the military government killed thousands of people and jailed and tortured tens of thousands more. Meanwhile, the "Chicago Boys," over 100 Chilean students sent by a State Department program to study under Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago, launched a radical program of privatization, deregulation and neoliberal policies that kept the economy screaming for most Chileans throughout Pinochet's 16-year military dictatorship.

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Ghana

There seem to be no inspiring national leaders in Africa these days. But that may be America's fault. In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a rising star in Ghana: Kwame Nkrumah. He was Prime Minister under British rule from 1952 to 1960, when Ghana became independent and he became president. He was a socialist, a pan-African and an anti-imperialist, and, in 1965, he wrote a book called Neo-Colonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism. Nkrumah was overthrown in a CIA coup in 1966. The CIA denied involvement at the time, but the British press later reported that 40 CIA officers operated out of the U.S. Embassy "distributing largesse among President Nkrumah's secret adversaries," and that their work "was fully rewarded." Former CIA officer John Stockwell revealed more about the CIA's decisive role in the coup in his book In Search of Enemies.

[washedupmxer]

Let's be clear here the us is dominating and far from innocent.

Saying all of these places would have been great places otherwise is stupidity at the highest level.  

[motonoggin]

1 minute ago, washedupmxer said:

Let's be clear here the us is dominating and far from innocent.

Saying all of these places would have been great places otherwise is stupidity at the highest level.  

Lol. It's like you just can't offer any sort of coherent rebuttal and instead choose to continue to engage in logical fallacies. 

[Momorider]

1 hour ago, washedupmxer said:

When yes it's 100% certainty that left alone Haiti would have been non raping non slaving wonderful place to be 

You gotta be high af to think this way

 Neofascisthimmlerstoner has been so high for so long he has severe irreversible brain damage 

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[washedupmxer]

8 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Lol. It's like you just can't offer any sort of coherent rebuttal and instead choose to continue to engage in logical fallacies. 

Do the have nots even cross your mind when fire up the SS socialism? 

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1 minute ago, washedupmxer said:

Do the have nots even cross your mind when fire up the SS socialism? 

Ad hominem

[Anler]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

 

You two should start a classroom thread on it.  I'll play along.  What I am most interested in is the part where it ruins every shithole country on earth.  Actually, to be specific, more on how you spin it to make it look like that.

Can you understand that there is a vested financial interest in keeping areas with specific resources poor, underdeveloped and unstable? Now look at the shithole countries and see if they have any marketable resources AND are poor, underdeveloped and unstable... 

Class dismissed....

[Zambroski]

Just now, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

Can you understand that there is a vested financial interest in keeping areas with specific resources poor, underdeveloped and unstable? Now look at the shithole countries and see if they have any marketable resources AND are poor, underdeveloped and unstable... 

Class dismissed....

Stop being simple.  If this theory works it has to go the other way too.  In other words, “shitholes” can’t exist in the numbers they do that we’ve got nothing to do with.  Keeping countries “poor” on purpose is crap.  We’d work better together if they’d prosper.  

 

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[washedupmxer]

9 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Ad hominem

Ad hoc

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[washedupmxer]

Now the meme machine of stupid is really revved up

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[Zambroski]

Just now, washedupmxer said:

Now the meme machine of stupid is really revved up

Yeah, once the cut and pasted and memes are sent in to muddy up the waters in an effort to make one seem “intelligent and witty”, I usually just bail out of the debate.

 

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[Anler]

1 minute ago, Zambroski said:

Stop being simple.  If this theory works it has to go the other way too.  In other words, “shitholes” can’t exist in the numbers they do that we’ve got nothing to do with.  Keeping countries “poor” on purpose is crap.  We’d work better together if they’d prosper.  

 

Not if someone was looking to exploit those resources. It's best to have cheap labor, little to no govt interference (regulation, taxes, environmental laws, etc...) And an ignorant populace that doesn't have resources to organize and process it's own resources. 

I'm not going to say our govt does this, the world commodity brokers (intnl banks) do this. We are just the enforcement wing and bankrollers of these endeavors. 

Look at all of the evil dictatorships we are focused on right now, what do they have in common? North Korea, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan... They all have enormous amounts of marketable resources, unstable govts and have had decades of covert US interference. Surprise!

[MiSledder]

Dont you guys know every country was prosperous beautiful place until the US came along

[Anler]

5 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Yeah, once the cut and pasted and memes are sent in to muddy up the waters in an effort to make one seem “intelligent and witty”, I usually just bail out of the debate.

 

And instead of disputing any of it with facts you two just put your ignorance on diplay with a counter meme emoji. We tell tell youz are smart now.

 

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15 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Stop being simple.  If this theory works it has to go the other way too.  In other words, “shitholes” can’t exist in the numbers they do that we’ve got nothing to do with.  Keeping countries “poor” on purpose is crap.  We’d work better together if they’d prosper.  

 

Someone doesn't understand capitalism...

[motonoggin]

9 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Yeah, once the cut and pasted and memes are sent in to muddy up the waters in an effort to make one seem “intelligent and witty”, I usually just bail out of the debate.

 

"When it's pretty obvious that I'm completely ignorant of my own country's history, I bail like a bitch"

[Zambroski]

5 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said:

Not if someone was looking to exploit those resources. It's best to have cheap labor, little to no govt interference (regulation, taxes, environmental laws, etc...) And an ignorant populace that doesn't have resources to organize and process it's own resources. 

I'm not going to say our govt does this, the world commodity brokers (intnl banks) do this. We are just the enforcement wing and bankrollers of these endeavors. 

Look at all of the evil dictatorships we are focused on right now, what do they have in common? North Korea, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan... They all have enormous amounts of marketable resources, unstable govts and have had decades of covert US interference. Surprise!

Ok, some valid points.  But to say in any way the Untied States or “Imperialism” is responsible for holding countries down and making them “shit holes” is ridiculous.  

We don’t dictate labor economies in other countries and fact is, our operations in these impoverished areas create a lot more good than bad.  They had virtually NOTHING before.  

To insinuate that we are blindly stealing and extracting resources without benefit is also abtuse.  We aren’t out raping and piliging the world’s resources.  If we stopped negotiating for other country’s resources, most would plunge into the dark ages.