Here is my buddies brand new 1200 last year 1/4 mile down the trail....he needed 1 new engine, the next week the water pump failed...back to the dealership, then the clutch spring recall...back to the dealer, by Feb it was good to go.....and just as reliable as any sled, but he is a Doo fan, so all is good.......all sleds are the same no matter what the Puzzler claims...