Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Cutting spending would be a good start. 25% to military and welfare. Neal I agree but it’s not there. This will be like the Dubya years....send every taxpayer a check for 600 bucks and charge it. The economy falters again and a Democrat cleans up the fuckin mess AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: I agree but it’s not there. This will be like the Dubya years....send every taxpayer a check for 600 bucks and charge it. The economy falters again and a Democrat cleans up the fuckin mess AGAIN. please list what Obama did to fix our economy and Debt crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 2, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: I agree but it’s not there. This will be like the Dubya years....send every taxpayer a check for 600 bucks and charge it. The economy falters again and a Democrat cleans up the fuckin mess AGAIN. That was the first round of tax "breaks" and it didn't do shit. 2nd round created the largest increase in tax revenue in our nations history. Funny there was actually an episode on The West Wing that talked about a tax rebate and why they don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, jtssrx said: please list what Obama did to fix our economy and Debt crisis. Really? Are you serious? Did you sleep for 8 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, oleroule said: the key is spending. much of the federal spending isn't constitutional. healthcare, education, etc should be at the state level. I'm more concerned with the spending being appropriate for our society. NASA isn't in the constitution but I support spending there, just as I do for education. It's obvious that we need a federal alignment of our education. There needs to be minimum standards set for degree compliance, ect. A vast majority of education should be paid for and regulated at the state level, no question, however all the states need to be graduating kids at the same standards. That is a job for a federal education department. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 So the tax cuts will just add to the debt? And the democrats had zero say in this tax cut bill? Crafted solely by the Republican Party? You cant make this shit up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Really? Are you serious? Did you sleep for 8 years? So thats a big nothing.....the evidence that Obama was bad is how the economy exploded the minute businesses figured out Hillary wasnt going to be president and Obama's policies would be rolled back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: So thats a big nothing.....the evidence that Obama was bad is how the economy exploded the minute businesses figured out Hillary wasnt going to be president and Obama's policies would be rolled back. Bullshit, none of his economic policies have been rolled back. He took the economy up from the dumps to marginally decent. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: I'm more concerned with the spending being appropriate for our society. NASA isn't in the constitution but I support spending there, just as I do for education. It's obvious that we need a federal alignment of our education. There needs to be minimum standards set for degree compliance, ect. A vast majority of education should be paid for and regulated at the state level, no question, however all the states need to be graduating kids at the same standards. That is a job for a federal education department. Neal Talking to my nieces about their college a few weeks ago. They told me they can use their tablets and phones for exams. On line courses must be the same. Are we watering down higher education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: So thats a big nothing.....the evidence that Obama was bad is how the economy exploded the minute businesses figured out Hillary wasnt going to be president and Obama's policies would be rolled back. You too van winkle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I'm more concerned with the spending being appropriate for our society. NASA isn't in the constitution but I support spending there, just as I do for education. It's obvious that we need a federal alignment of our education. There needs to be minimum standards set for degree compliance, ect. A vast majority of education should be paid for and regulated at the state level, no question, however all the states need to be graduating kids at the same standards. That is a job for a federal education department. Neal sorry, i disagree. article 1, section 8 clearly defines congressional limits. things like dept of education, energy, interior, transportation, nasa, etc. aren't authorized. Edited November 2, 2017 by oleroule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Bullshit, none of his economic policies have been rolled back. He took the economy up from the dumps to marginally decent. Neal A shit ton of his regulatory idiocy has been rolled back and much more is under threat. That is why the economy exploded and that is why the market is up 20% in a year Obama and his garbage business policy was strangling what was ready to really heat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: A shit ton of his regulatory idiocy has been rolled back and much more is under threat. That is why the economy exploded and that is why the market is up 20% in a year Obama and his garbage business policy was strangling what was ready to really heat up. The market has been fake since March. All those gains will be lost soon. Even you said you moved your money. oh and the coal industry isn’t making a comeback.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: The market has been fake since March. All those gains will be lost soon. Even you said you moved your money. oh and the coal industry isn’t making a comeback.. Hey retard....I work in an actual industry that is tied to the economy like nothing you can imagine. I can tell you that 4 of our best 7 quarters ever have been the last 4 quarters and its because Obama and by extension Hillary are out of the picture. Now get back to the oatmeal and try not to make such a shitty mess for your orderly today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Talking to my nieces about their college a few weeks ago. They told me they can use their tablets and phones for exams. On line courses must be the same. Are we watering down higher education? Absolutely, it's disgusting. Parents should be the #1 responsible party for kids education, followed by the local school district, then the state, and then the feds. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, Mainecat said: I agree but it’s not there. This will be like the Dubya years....send every taxpayer a check for 600 bucks and charge it. The economy falters again and a Democrat cleans up the fuckin mess AGAIN. More lies , there are plenty of wasteful programs to cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Hey retard....I work in an actual industry that is tied to the economy like nothing you can imagine. I can tell you that 4 of our best 7 quarters ever have been the last 4 quarters and its because Obama and by extension Hillary are out of the picture. Now get back to the oatmeal and try not to make such a shitty mess for your orderly today Meanwhile other areas are taking massive hits, agriculture for example. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Meanwhile other areas are taking massive hits, agriculture for example. Neal Good....the bullshit trade agreements that have gutted our middle class need to go. If farmers take a hit so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: Hey retard....I work in an actual industry that is tied to the economy like nothing you can imagine. I can tell you that 4 of our best 7 quarters ever have been the last 4 quarters and its because Obama and by extension Hillary are out of the picture. Now get back to the oatmeal and try not to make such a shitty mess for your orderly today I may be old but my memory is perfect. Why did you move your money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Absolutely, it's disgusting. Parents should be the #1 responsible party for kids education, followed by the local school district, then the state, and then the feds. Neal No nothing in class when I went to college. If you got caught cheating you were out. Today sure you can use google for your exam and fuck if it’s on line call a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: I may be old but my memory is perfect. Why did you move your money? Because the market has been on an incredible 8 year run and I feel its over valued.....that has nothing to do with the fact that the shear optimism associated with the end of Obama's reign of idiocy has driven everything we are seeing right now. It could all come crashing down if the orange idiot doesnt start to deliver what he promised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 2, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I'm more concerned with the spending being appropriate for our society. NASA isn't in the constitution but I support spending there, just as I do for education. It's obvious that we need a federal alignment of our education. There needs to be minimum standards set for degree compliance, ect. A vast majority of education should be paid for and regulated at the state level, no question, however all the states need to be graduating kids at the same standards. That is a job for a federal education department. Neal Agreed but it shouldn't take 4400 employee's and a budget of almost $70 billion. That's fucking nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 31 minutes ago, f7ben said: Good....the bullshit trade agreements that have gutted our middle class need to go. If farmers take a hit so be it TPP was a correction to trade agreements and got denied. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: Agreed but it shouldn't take 4400 employee's and a budget of almost $70 billion. That's fucking nuts. I don't think that is so unreasonable. Depends on the services given. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 2, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I don't think that is so unreasonable. Depends on the services given. Neal The DOE doesn't need that many employee's or a budget of $70 billion to set a few standards. $1400 per student to decide "standards." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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