Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 18, 2017 Donald Trump's campaign against Isis results in nearly as many civilian deaths as during Obama's entire administration Quote Nearly as many Iraqi and Syrian civilians have died in US-led air strikes under Donald Trump as were killed during the whole administration of Barack Obama, independent analysts say. As of 13 July, more than 2,200 civilians had been killed by the US-led international coalition against Isis since Donald Trump entered the White house in January - compared with the estimated 2,300 civilians who died during similar strikes between 2014 and 2016. Roughly 80 civilians per month died in strikes under Mr Obama but this has now risen to approximately 360 per month under Mr Trump, according to research by the military tracking organisation Airwars. Part of the rise in these figures is due to the changing nature of the war against Isis, as the jihadist group became entrenched in the major cities of Mosul and Raqqa, coalition officials say, though they insist that every effort is made to avoid civilian casualties. The coalition's own civilian casualty figures are much lower than Airwars', but they too show an increase since January. Around 40 per cent of the 603 civilians the coalition has admitted killing during the campaign died during the first four months of Mr Trump’s administration. The new figures come after Mr Trump promised to “bomb the s*** out of Isis” on the campaign trail. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-syria-death-toll-campaign-military-operations-barack-obama-administration-a7844526.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Stupid games in a stupid region. Same old shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Turn up the heat...more people are going to die... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 18, 2017 Well I'm doubtful of the collection of this data but in any case get the fuck out of the ME. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 They knew going in taking these cities back from isis was going to be brutal and ugly. Have you seen the pictures of Mosul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well I'm doubtful of the collection of this data but in any case get the fuck out of the ME. Very true. That data is never even in the ballpark. Doesn't make us being there ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 how many decades will the iraq and syrian debacles follow america around? i wonder what strange monstrosity will rear its head after isis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Stupid games in a stupid region. Same old shit. I agree......breeding more terrorists every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Well Iraq is over so those deaths should end now, everyone's dead and nothing is left but rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: how many decades will the iraq and syrian debacles follow america around? i wonder what strange monstrosity will rear its head after isis? The middle east is a no win situation for the US. Help them get democracy they still hate you. Help them defeat a communist aggressor they still hate you. Say Israel has the right to exist they hate you. The ME is in a cultural war within itself. Its no win until the Islamic religion changes. That's not gonna happen. Get OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Highmark said: The middle east is a no win situation for the US. Help them get democracy they still hate you. Help them defeat a communist aggressor they still hate you. Say Israel has the right to exist they hate you. The ME is in a cultural war within itself. Its no win until the Islamic religion changes. That's not gonna happen. Get OUT. Yep, if they aren't fighting they aren't happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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