Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: dude , come on.....your battered wife and girlfriend with a credit card analogies are so much better idiot what did I get wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: what did I get wrong? no clue , I hardly ever do more than skim over your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: trump makes the claim that there are several reasons why we should believe Russia doesn't want him in power - one is our big energy "threat" and the other is military. I laugh and call bs because in the scheme of things, our energy exports are a drop in the bucket. snake steps in, says otherwise, supporting the notion that trump is right. tom comes in later without a fucking clue. which is becoming a pattern... I called you on the gas because our military in a no-brainer threat to Russia. Because the discussion was about Trump, the topic devolved, as usual, to your saying your superior intelligence can make fiction fact. Don't confuse another chance to show how incorrect you are as a Trump puff, it's just fun to prove you wrong. (That's half your problem, everything seems so personal to you.) You were wrong, regardless. Fuck the Trump angle, just shut up and be wrong like a man. Always gotta throw in the ...tom comes in later without a fucking clue. which is becoming a pattern... don't cha? MY GOD ARE YOU INSECURE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: no clue , I hardly ever do more than skim over your posts yet you argue like you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: what did I get wrong? Saying our natural gas exporting will have no effect on global gas prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Snake said: Saying our natural gas exporting will have no effect on global gas prices. I said our NG will have very little effect on putin in the overall scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: I said our NG will have very little effect on putin in the overall scheme of things. Experts say you are wrong. Now you tell me, whom do I think is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) show mje where I said our NG will have no effect on things? if you had reading comprehension skills you'd know I said the opposite, when I stated putin is willing to lose a little, to gain a lot. what do you think I meant by "little"? Edited July 13, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snake said: Experts say you are wrong. Now you tell me, whom do I think is right? and I posted other expert opinions. this is where common sense should kick in but doesn't for you, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: and I posted other expert opinions. this is where common sense should kick in but doesn't for you, obviously. Common sense, to anyone who can look. The United States is sitting on vast reserves of natural gas. In under a decade, the shale revolution turned the U.S. from gas importer to gas exporter. Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) exports have become economically viable and are forecasted to increase through 2017 up to 3.1 billion cubic feet. Furthermore, the opening of US LNG exports has begun in early summer of 2016, with shipments to the TGN LNG terminal in Portugal and Spain’s Mugardos LNG terminal. Nevertheless, U.S. LNG exporters have treated Europe as a residual market favoring the more profitable Asian market, especially following the expansion of the Panama Canal. However, things have been changing. The two main claims against shipments to the European market – lack of demand and cost effectiveness – have lost their validity. First, according to the IEA, demand for gas in Europe, contrary to general belief, will double by 2020. Second, LNG prices in the Pacific and Atlantic area have been converging, therefore reducing the cost advantage of selling to the Asian market. U.S. LNG exports would see increasing profit from European markets while at the same time helping its most important allies ensure security. The EU and the energy community are in desperate need of LNG as domestic consumption is declining. In 2013, the EU regasification capacity utilization was at a mere 24%, hence, with the current infrastructure there would be storage capacity for U.S. LNG imports. New sources of LNG to Europe would have the positive effects of diversifying supply, helping with the integration of the markets (especially in the East and in the North-South corridor), and further European clean energy goals, as an increase in use of gas for electricity would reduce carbon emissions from coal. Nevertheless, the EU must meet the U.S. effort by connecting the west to the east though new infrastructure, expanding storage capacity, and removing the barriers to a common energy market. In response, according to Platts, the U.S. by 2020 could be exporting to Europe over 100 Bcm/year of LNG, which would meet one quarter of the market demand. These statistics highlight how Europe could obtain higher regional and energy security. Increased competition among LNG suppliers and Russian energy policy create uncertainty for U.S. LNG shipments to Europe. It is true, as stated previously, that shipping LNG to Europe is now economically feasible for the U.S., however, the unpredictability of Russian operations works as a deterrent. Due to increased competition of LNG suppliers to Europe (Qatar, Iran, Algeria, etc.) gas costs have decreased. If the price of gas falls below the $4 per million Btu mark, it would become unfeasible for the U.S. to ship to the continent. The price issue revolves around Russia’s capability of flooding the European market with cheap gas. If Russia decides to do so it would force its competitors out of the market. However, the question remains regarding the feasibility of Russia maintaining such operation over a prolonged period. Low oil prices, coupled with sanctions, have forced the Russian economy into a phase of stagnation. Even more, following Russia’s recent proposed budget cuts, based on a $40 a barrel oil prediction for 2017, it seems more and more unlikely that the Kremlin will be able to pursue such policy. Under a year ago, U.S. LNG exports to Europe seemed unfeasible. Today they are a reality. Demand for gas is expected to grow in the next decade. Prices, if kept around $5 million Btu, allow for US exports and competition with Russia. Europe could gain greatly. An increase in LNG imports could provide a cushion for the next five years, while Europe, in its rush to guarantee its security, invests in pipelines, storage capacity, LNG terminals, and integrating the markets. Europe has a lot to gain from the unfolding of current events. A Trump presidency can push European institutions to begin thinking of an independent future, while the Russian threat can bring all European countries together to diversify supplies of gas and achieve energy security. https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/the-importance-of-us-lng-exports-to-europe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 so let's get to the main course - do you agree with trump in that putin, in all reality, shouldn't want trump in the WH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: so let's get to the main course - do you agree with trump in that putin, in all reality, shouldn't want trump in the WH? Start a thread. This is about your (apparently) abject lack of knowledge in basic economics and geopolitical actions of American NG exports to a European Union which Russia supplies 1/4 of said gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: so let's get to the main course - do you agree with trump in that putin, in all reality, shouldn't want trump in the WH? Putin Obviously would have preferred Clinton to Trump. His country has been cozy with her and Billy Jeff for quite some time now. Trump is an unknown and Clinton represented an easy quid pro quo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Snake said: Start a thread. This is about your (apparently) abject lack of knowledge in basic economics and geopolitical actions of American NG exports to a European Union which Russia supplies 1/4 of said gas. hello? that is what this thread is about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 "start a thread" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: hello? that is what this thread is about... Simply put, I don't presume to think what the man thinks. Each had their pros and cons. A known corrupt politician, or a wild reality star TV billionaire with a very odd style. He already knew he could control Hillary..... *links Syrian red line/Russian annexation* Go with the (hilde)beast you know or the one you don't. It's all conjecture. 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: Putin Obviously would have preferred Clinton to Trump. His country has been cozy with her and Billy Jeff for quite some time now. Trump is an unknown and Clinton represented an easy quid pro quo Way to repeat exactly what was said on fox news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snake said: Simply put, I don't presume to think what the man thinks. Each had their pros and cons. A known corrupt politician, or a wild reality star TV billionaire with a very odd style. He already knew he could control Hillary..... *links Syrian red line/Russian annexation* Go with the (hilde)beast you know or the one you don't. It's all conjecture. 100%. there are many indicators that say otherwise, including facts in recently exposed e-mails. sbyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 snakey do you really think you're fooling anyone with that nonsense? who the fuck put the sanctions on Russia and was going to keep them there, or tighten them even more. putin CLEARLY wanted trump in the WH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: so let's get to the main course - do you agree with trump in that putin, in all reality, shouldn't want trump in the WH? You can't see that at all on the economic side at all? Both Trump and Clinton I think will continue big military spending. She is twice the necon her husband was. Rather you admit it or not continuing Obama's status quo was not working with Russia. Not saying Trump would be better but I think Hillary would have followed down the same mistakes that Obama made with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: there are many indicators that say otherwise, including facts in recently exposed e-mails. sbyl. Wanna go down this road? Putin played her and Osama like a Stradivarius in Syria. He got a whole fucking country under their watch. Do you think he was the least bit worried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: snakey do you really think you're fooling anyone with that nonsense? who the fuck put the sanctions on Russia and was going to keep them there, or tighten them even more. putin CLEARLY wanted trump in the WH. THIS is a REAL Grand Swami. Quit trying to muscle in on his racket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted July 13, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snake said: Wanna go down this road? Putin played her and Osama like a Stradivarius in Syria. He got a whole fucking country under their watch. Do you think he was the least bit worried? Putin played you and Dump like a fool Union Boy Who Putin supported isn't even up for debate - it's a fact he and Russia meddled to support Dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: Putin played you and Dump like a fool Union Boy Who Putin supported isn't even up for debate - it's a fact he and Russia meddled to support Dump. Suggesting otherwise is contrary to the facts and idiotic or what we call here...."just another day at Freedomsledder" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 they reached an entirely new level of stupid, one I didn't think even existed. think they've plateaued yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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