motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Its not capitalism's fault it couldn't keep up with the socialistic spending of our fed, state and local govts. Govt is not capitalism. Lol. 20 trillion spent propping up prices and suppressing wages in order to preserve capitalism. But capitalism isn't the problem, it's those damn poors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Yet, here you are, supporting and justifying massive debt and intergenerational theft. You have to deal with the cards you are given. Give me a society that is better, and not one that dwells in your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: You have to deal with the cards you are given. Give me a society that is better, and not one that dwells in your head. Can't do that if you want me to leave, dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Can't do that if you want me to leave, dummy. Does one exist? Anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Does one exist? Anywhere? Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean it can't exist. Basic logic fail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) "we shouldn't fight the British crown, because there is no better system in existence" And "We're so unimaginative that we can't envision a better society without copying someone else" Edited May 18, 2017 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean it can't exist. Basic logic fail... Oh I see now. Start the revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Oh I see now. Start the revolution. "You can't criticize capitalism unless you start killing people" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 And people wonder why I don't engage... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: "You can't criticize capitalism unless you start killing people" Who says you have to kill people. You live in a democracy, get enough people to back those ideas you change the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Who says you have to kill people. You live in a democracy, get enough people to back those ideas you change the system. Wow, thanks for the advice. I never once thought of that... ^this is snotty assed sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: And people wonder why I don't engage... 🤣 Hell brah! I think you do quite well at holding your own. I enjoy the show. And while I may not agree with your ideals, I can appreciate your dedication and knowledge on your chosen theme. It's much, much better than the brainless libs in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Hell brah! I think you do quite well at holding your own. I enjoy the show. And while I may not agree with your ideals, I can appreciate your dedication and knowledge on your chosen theme. It's much, much better than the brainless libs in here. Yeah, they're pretty fuckin horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Wow, thanks for the advice. I never once thought of that... ^this is snotty assed sarcasm So you want to change the USA being a minority. Well I guess thats possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: So you want to change the USA being a minority. Well I guess thats possible. Yeah, I never thought that criticism of capitalism would change people's minds about it. Glad you're here to point these things out! ^^^more snotty assed sarcasm^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Yeah, I never thought that criticism of capitalism would change people's minds about it. Glad you're here to point these things out! ^^^more snotty assed sarcasm^^^ Well you have to give an alternative and a path to get there. I'll give you the alternative, but you have no plan otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Well you have to give an alternative and a path to get there. I'll give you the alternative, but you have no plan otherwise. Lol. Obviously the plan is to spread the truth about capitalism and how it's detrimental to human existence, potential, and prosperity. If an honest assessment of the last 40 years isn't enough to convince people that capitalism sucks, I don't know what will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The alternative is a society absent of unjustified hierarchies and the path to get there is dismantling the unjustified hierarchies present in society today. It's really not that hard to grasp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, motonoggin said: The alternative is a society absent of unjustified hierarchies and the path to get there is dismantling the unjustified hierarchies present in society today. It's really not that hard to grasp. If the debt continues to grow uncontrolled like it has, you won't have to dismantle anything, cause it will collapse on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: If the debt continues to grow uncontrolled like it has, you won't have to dismantle anything, cause it will collapse on its own. True. Marx predicted that communism wouldn't be possible until late stage capitalism was fully developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: Lol. 20 trillion spent propping up prices and suppressing wages in order to preserve capitalism. But capitalism isn't the problem, it's those damn poors... Nobody would claim that all versions of govt spending hasn't been out of control however we still are the wealthiest country in the world for a reason. I recall you one time debating that the national debt was not that big of deal because the taxpayers actually own or hold 2/3's of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: True. Marx predicted that communism wouldn't be possible until late stage capitalism was fully developed. OMG that's priceless. You have to see the irony in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Nobody would claim that all versions of govt spending hasn't been out of control however we still are the wealthiest country in the world for a reason. I recall you one time debating that the national debt was not that big of deal because the taxpayers actually own or hold 2/3's of it. Really? Because I've never once said anything of the sort. I've always maintained that the debt is propping up prices and suppressing wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: OMG that's priceless. You have to see the irony in that. I do, but clearly you don't. The fact is that capitalism will eventually destroy itself, and communism will prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 18, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Really? Because I've never once said anything of the sort. I've always maintained that the debt is propping up prices and suppressing wages. Maybe it wasn't you but I thought it was. This was before your Antifa and communist days. You were just a lefty or liberal then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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