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[XCR1250]

SOME STATES (Maryland, Michigan & Arizona) ARE ALLOWING MUSLIM STUDENTS TO PRAY DURING SCHOOL HOURS.

 

IF THEY ALLOW THAT, THEN WE SHOULD BRING BACK OUR FLAGS INTO THE CLASSROOMS AND ALLOW OTHERS TO PRAY TOO!  TIME FOR THE CHRISTIANS TO SPEAK UP.  DEMAND THEIR RIGHTS.

 

When we get 100,000,000, that's one hundred million, willing Christians to BOND
together, voice their concerns and vote, we can take back America with God's help.

 

Become one of the One hundred  million...
Then let's get 200 million.  It can be done just by sending this email
to your friends.

 

Do the math.  It only takes a single willing heart and a fed up SOUL. God Bless America and Shine your light on Her!

 

In  1952 President Truman established one day a year as a "National
Day of Prayer."

 

In 1988 President Reagan Designated the first Thursday in May of each
year as The National Day of Prayer.

 

In June 2007 (then) Presidential Candidate Barack Obama Declared that the USA "Was no longer a Christian nation.

 

In May 2009 President Obama dismissed our 21st annual National Day of Prayer ceremony at  the White House under the ruse of "not wanting to
offend anyone"

 

Sept. 25, 2009, a Muslim Prayer Day was held on the west front of the
U.S. Capitol Building, the site where U.S. Presidents have been
inaugurated since 1981. There were over 50,000 Muslims In D.C. that
day President Obama dismissed our national day of prayer and now it is
okay for an event at our capitol for Islamists?? But wait, it has not stopped even  now!!!

 

February 17-19 , 2015, A Muslim prayer was recited at the start of the
second day of the White House summit on “Countering Violent
Extremism,” but no other religious text was presented during the
portion of the event that was open to the press. Imam Sheikh Sa’ad
Musse Roble, president of the World Peace Organization in Minneapolis,
Minn., recited a “verse from the Quran” following remarks by Obama
administration officials and Democratic members of Congress.

 

Now President Obama is encouraging schools to teach the Quran for
extra credit, while at the same time, they cannot even talk about the
Bible, God, pray, or salute the American Flag.

 

[Mileage Psycho]

 

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Now President Obama is encouraging schools to teach the Quran for
extra credit, while at the same time, they cannot even talk about the
Bible, God, pray, or salute the American Flag.

 

 

 

[Rmk]

If this was the other way we would have separation of church and state. I don't care public or private as long as everyone has equally given

[Cold War]

We have just gotten stupid about the whole separation of church and state.

Is it really a big deal if high school athletes say a prayer before a game.

Years ago, when I was leading my sons cub scout troop, some parents  didn't want us using the school  after hours, because they thought we were talking about God.

[Boered]

I did read an article regarding this, but cannot recall where, it wasmpostedmherw and may have even been in Canada. It is just assinine to see this type of thing take place. Either all religion gets considerations, or none. When a family decides to emigrate to america, they should havens basic understanding of our school system and in that understanding realize no prayer rooms or breaks at their convenience is available. This would be called a sacrifice to come to a country that offers peace and a real chance to prosper. 

[Mainecat]

When we get 100,000,000, that's one hundred million, willing Christians to BOND
together, voice their concerns and vote, we can take back America with God's help.

 

JEEBUS SAVES

[Capt.Storm]

2 minutes ago, Boered said:

I did read an article regarding this, but cannot recall where, it wasmpostedmherw and may have even been in Canada. It is just assinine to see this type of thing take place. Either all religion gets considerations, or none. When a family decides to emigrate to america, they should havens basic understanding of our school system and in that understanding realize no prayer rooms or breaks at their convenience is available. This would be called a sacrifice to come to a country that offers peace and a real chance to prosper. 

I agree.

Do you agree that the saying of the pledge of allegiance is patriotic and should be done?

[ArcticCrusher]

7 minutes ago, Boered said:

I did read an article regarding this, but cannot recall where, it wasmpostedmherw and may have even been in Canada. It is just assinine to see this type of thing take place. Either all religion gets considerations, or none. When a family decides to emigrate to america, they should havens basic understanding of our school system and in that understanding realize no prayer rooms or breaks at their convenience is available. This would be called a sacrifice to come to a country that offers peace and a real chance to prosper. 

Schools?  Fuck the prayer rooms are in the workplace.

[SSFB]

Nobody can be prevented from praying in school, nobody. That has never changed.

[Capt.Storm]

37 minutes ago, SSFB said:

Nobody can be prevented from praying in school, nobody. That has never changed.

Silent prayer though right?

[SSFB]

21 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Silent prayer though right?

Sure. Why would someone be allowed to pray out loud and disturb everyone else?

Also, it's perfectly fine and allowed that the Bible be used in schools if it's used as a piece of Literature. That precedent has been around for a long time. 

[Capt.Storm]

12 minutes ago, SSFB said:

Sure. Why would someone be allowed to pray out loud and disturb everyone else?

Also, it's perfectly fine and allowed that the Bible be used in schools if it's used as a piece of Literature. That precedent has been around for a long time. 

And you'e ok with this?

I'm ok with prayer as long as it's silent and not disruptive.

 

 

 

As was announced by the St. Cloud School District, they are being politically correct by giving Muslim students access to “private rooms with prayer rugs for the five daily prayers.”

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/whoa-school-allows-school-prayer/#ixzz4DYJhq91t

[ArcticCrusher]

1 hour ago, SSFB said:

Nobody can be prevented from praying in school, nobody. That has never changed.

 

Lots of kids praying come test time.

[ArcticCrusher]

2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

And you'e ok with this?

I'm ok with prayer as long as it's silent and not disruptive.

 

 

 

As was announced by the St. Cloud School District, they are being politically correct by giving Muslim students access to “private rooms with prayer rugs for the five daily prayers.”

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/whoa-school-allows-school-prayer/#ixzz4DYJhq91t

 

I don't think its right, but then who the else prays five times during the day.  I think perhaps some Orthodox Jews might.

[SSFB]

7 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

And you'e ok with this?

I'm ok with prayer as long as it's silent and not disruptive.

 

 

 

As was announced by the St. Cloud School District, they are being politically correct by giving Muslim students access to “private rooms with prayer rugs for the five daily prayers.”

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/whoa-school-allows-school-prayer/#ixzz4DYJhq91t

Depends on how it's being done. Are they organizing the school day around these prayer sessions? Because that certainly wouldn't be right. 

If they're utilizing an existing room that isn't needed for anything else, then by all means let them use it for prayer, but you then also have to cater to students from other religions.

[Boered]

3 hours ago, Capt.Storm said:

I agree.

Do you agree that the saying of the pledge of allegiance is patriotic and should be done?

No. I do not buy into any systemic indoctrination of children.

[Capt.Storm]

Just now, SSFB said:

Depends on how it's being done. Are they organizing the school day around these prayer sessions? Because that certainly wouldn't be right. 

If they're utilizing an existing room that isn't needed for anything else, then by all means let them use it for prayer, but you then have to cater to every religion's needs at the school. 

Yeah, it says in the story that anybody can use the room for prayer.

You just gotta know it will get out of hand though.

[Capt.Storm]

1 minute ago, Boered said:

No. I do not buy into any systemic indoctrination of children.

Really?

I'll leave it to the others to have at that statement.

 

[SSFB]

2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Really?

I'll leave it to the others to have at that statement.

 

He's right.

[Capt.Storm]

Just now, SSFB said:

He's right.

You guys have a problem with liberty and justice for all?

I do have a problem that they added  god to it..I'll admit that.

[SSFB]

Just now, Capt.Storm said:

You guys have a problem with liberty and justice for all?

I do have a problem that they added  god to it..I'll admit that.

No.

But the Pledge was written by a Socialist and is undoubtedly a form of brainwashing. 

[Capt.Storm]

I don't think you should have to recite though.

 

 

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

During the Pledge, proper etiquette requires military personnel in uniform to salute, while other citizens place their right hand on their heart. Men should remove their hats during the pledge.

There was confusion about who wrote the pledge, James B. Upham or Francis Bellamy, both editors at "The Youth's Companion," but Bellamy is now acknowledged as the author.

History:
September 18, 1892 - The pledge is published for the first time in the juvenile magazine "The Youth's Companion." The pledge is written to celebrate the 400th anniversary of the discovery of America.

1924 - The words "the flag of the United States of America" put in place of "my Flag." The pledge was originally written - "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

1942 - The pledge is recognized by the U.S. government.

1943 - In West Virginia State Board of Education vs. Barnette (319 U.S. 624), the Supreme Courtrules that requiring a person to say the pledge is violating the first and fourteenth amendments. The case involved a Jehovah's Witness student refusing to say the pledge in schools on the grounds it was against his or her religious beliefs.

1954 - President Dwight D. Eisenhower asks Congress to add "under God" to the pledge. Congress adds the phrase.

1998 - Dr. Michael Newdow files suit against the school board of Broward County (Florida) to get the phrase "under God" removed from the pledge. The suit is dismissed for lack of standing. Sandy Banning, the mother of the girl, says that her daughter is not an atheist and has not been harmed by saying the pledge in school. Banning and Newdow have faced custody issues over their daughter.

2000 - Newdow, who is an atheist, brings the case against the Elk Grove school system in California. His daughter attends Florence Markofer Elementary School in Elk Grove.

June 26, 2002 - The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decides that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools is an unconstitutional "endorsement of religion" because of the phrase "under God."

March 24, 2004 - Newdow argues his case before the Supreme Court.

June 14, 2004 - The U.S. Supreme Court dismisses the challenge to the constitutionality of the Pledge of Allegiance on a technicality, saying Newdow does not have legal standing to bring the case.

January 3, 2005 - Michael Newdow and eight co-plaintiffs file suit in a Sacramento federal court, seeking to remove the phrase "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. The eight co-plaintiffs are not named but are parents with custody of their children or children themselves.

July 18, 2005 - Michael Newdow reopens his case and sues four Sacramento area school districts on behalf of his family and several others.

August 10, 2005 - The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upholds a Virginia law that requires public schools to recite the Pledge of Allegiance daily, and rejects a claim that its reference to God is an unconstitutional promotion of religion. The court states that the pledge is not an affirmation of religion similar to a prayer, but simply a patriotic exercise. This suit is raised by a father of three, Edward Myers of Sterling, Virgina, who doesn't believe his children should have to say "one nation under God."

September 14, 2005 - Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in schools is ruled unconstitutional by U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton of U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of California, in Sacramento. He states that the phrase "under God" violates the children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God."

January 2009 - Frazier vs. Alexandre - The U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals issues a ruling stating under parents' written request, schools can excuse a student from reciting the pledge regardless of the student's personal beliefs.

March 11, 2010 - Newdon vs. Rio Linda Union School District - Michael Newdon, Sacramento attorney, loses his case to remove the words "under God" from the pledge. Newdon has publically fought to remove "God" from the pledge and U.S. currency. Judge Carlos T. Bea writes, "The pledge is one of allegiance to our republic, not of allegiance to the God or to any religion."

November 12, 2010 - The First U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upholds a lower court ruling that a New Hampshire law requiring schools to recite the pledge is not unconstitutional.

October 5, 2012 - State of Michigan Governor Rick Snyder signs legislation that will give all Michigan students the freedom of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in class.

May 9, 2014 - The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts rules that the Pledge of Allegiance does not discriminate against atheists, saying that the words "under God" represent a patriotic, not a religious, exercise.

 

 

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[Momorider]

3 hours ago, SSFB said:

Sure. Why would someone be allowed to pray out loud and disturb everyone else?

Also, it's perfectly fine and allowed that the Bible be used in schools if it's used as a piece of Literature. That precedent has been around for a long time. 

You have no idea how Muslims pray do you?  

[SSFB]

23 minutes ago, Momorider said:

You have no idea how Muslims pray do you?  

Actually I do. 

[Cold War]

I guess, I don't see the harm in being patriotic and having pride in your country.

I still fly the flag out in front of my house. Somewhere along the line National pride has become a red neck thing and anyone who loves their country is white trash.