Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Time to use a little COMMON SENSE when it comes to the Russian investigation. I know you liberals really don't have any. Its a fact that top intel and LE officials have said they have found no collusion between Russia and the Election on multiple occasions. As recently as last week by Yates and Clapper. https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/yates-clapper-reaffirm-no-evidence-trump-russia-collusion/ The only evidence they most likely have has already been leaked to the media regarding General Flynn and even that has been proven not to be directly tied to Trump. Does anyone honestly think Pro Comey people in the FBI wouldn't have already leaked damning evidence against Trump if their were any? Does anyone honestly think the anti-Trump people inside the Intel Community, FBI or Justice dept for that matter wouldn't have already leaked damning evidence against Trump if their were any? Does anyone honestly think the IC doesn't already have all of Trumps financials and tax returns? Please people you can't be that naive. If the IRS has them so does the intel community. Even Comey admitted this is a counter intelligence investigation not a criminal investigation. You don't assign special prosecutors for counter intel investigations. As it stands right now we know of one crime, a felony that has been committed and that was the illegal leaking of classified information to the Washington Post.......yet NOTHING has been done at all. No matter the state of the Russian investigation complete refusal to go after the criminal involved with leaking classified information was enough to fire Comey. Edited May 11, 2017 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Maybe Nixon can suggest some plumbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1R9sledder Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Time to use a little COMMON SENSE when it comes to the Russian investigation. I know you liberals really don't have any. Its a fact that top intel and LE officials have said they have found no collusion between Russia and the Election on multiple occasions. As recently as last week by Yates and Clapper. https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/yates-clapper-reaffirm-no-evidence-trump-russia-collusion/ The only evidence they most likely have has already been leaked to the media regarding General Flynn and even that has been proven not to be directly tied to Trump. Does anyone honestly think Pro Comey people in the FBI wouldn't have already leaked damning evidence against Trump if their were any? Does anyone honestly think the anti-Trump people inside the Intel Community, FBI or Justice dept for that matter wouldn't have already leaked damning evidence against Trump if their were any? Does anyone honestly think the IC doesn't already have all of Trumps financials and tax returns? Please people you can't be that naive. If the IRS has them so does the intel community. Even Comey admitted this is a counter intelligence investigation not a criminal investigation. You don't assign special prosecutors for counter intel investigations. As it stands right now we know of one crime, a felony that has been committed and that was the illegal leaking of classified information to the Washington Post.......yet NOTHING has been done at all. No matter the state of the Russian investigation complete refusal to go after the criminal involved with leaking classified information was enough to fire Comey. It's sad that our liberal batshit crazy frenzied friends can't think this through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, T1R9sledder said: It's sad that our liberal batshit crazy frenzied friends can't think this through. sad that right wing hacks can't see how the left would have legit concerns over these actions given the timing of it. Trump would have gotten no push back from either side if he manned up and did this in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: sad that right wing hacks can't see how the left would have legit concerns over these actions given the timing of it. Trump would have gotten no push back from either side if he manned up and did this in Jan. Did what? Fire Comey? You don't think the Dems would raise a massive stink about that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: Did what? Fire Comey? You don't think the Dems would raise a massive stink about that then? Dems were pissed at him for losing hillary the election before they went down the russian excuse road as being the #1 reason. would have been easy to can him at the start not when he's investigating you 3 months later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1R9sledder Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: sad that right wing hacks can't see how the left would have legit concerns over these actions given the timing of it. Trump would have gotten no push back from either side if he manned up and did this in Jan. True......I disagree Trump would get push back on most anything he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: Dems were pissed at him for losing hillary the election before they went down the russian excuse road as being the #1 reason. would have been easy to can him at the start not when he's investigating you 3 months later Well, I disagree. The Dems would have raised just as much stink about the whole thing and attached whatever the daily conspiracy theory behind it they could. I've come to realize they are really, REALLY and truly into a full bore obstructionist party..nothing more. We won't see anything less than what we are seeing now out of them....on any situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Well, I disagree. The Dems would have raised just as much stink about the whole thing and attached whatever the daily conspiracy theory behind it they could. I've come to realize they are really, REALLY and truly into a full bore obstructionist party..nothing more. We won't see anything less than what we are seeing now out of them....on any situation. sure and the pubs are all about moving america forward in the right direction for the average person. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: sure and the pubs are all about moving america forward in the right direction for the average person. SMH This sounds suspiciously like a "I'm part of the problem" statement. The Dems can talk and negotiate their way through this with the R's. They have a voice and still have enough power. But it's clear they aren't going to do shit. Nothing. They are gonna flail and cry the whole time while blaming the Trump admin for every little thing they can pin on him. It demonstrates how worthless, weak and childish they are. Does the Trump admin have all the answers and best way to go for sure...well hell no. But it's clear there won't be anything but shit-flinging coming from the other side of the isle. Anybody supporting them is just as foolish and ignorant. As clearly demonstrated here on FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: This sounds suspiciously like a "I'm part of the problem" statement. The Dems can talk and negotiate their way through this with the R's. They have a voice and still have enough power. But it's clear they aren't going to do shit. Nothing. They are gonna flail and cry the whole time while blaming the Trump admin for every little thing they can pin on him. It demonstrates how worthless, weak and childish they are. Does the Trump admin have all the answers and best way to go for sure...well hell no. But it's clear there won't be anything but shit-flinging coming from the other side of the isle. Anybody supporting them is just as foolish and ignorant. As clearly demonstrated here on FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: This sounds suspiciously like a "I'm part of the problem" statement. The Dems can talk and negotiate their way through this with the R's. They have a voice and still have enough power. But it's clear they aren't going to do shit. Nothing. They are gonna flail and cry the whole time while blaming the Trump admin for every little thing they can pin on him. It demonstrates how worthless, weak and childish they are. Does the Trump admin have all the answers and best way to go for sure...well hell no. But it's clear there won't be anything but shit-flinging coming from the other side of the isle. Anybody supporting them is just as foolish and ignorant. As clearly demonstrated here on FS. gee sounds a lot liek the republicans for the 8 years of the obama adminsitration Time for America to demand more of their representatives than partisan hackery. Neither party gives a fuck about middle class America and they show it constantly but yet the voters blindly defend their side all the while being bent over and fucked in the ass by their representatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, SnowRider said: Neither party in their right mind fills that vacancy on an outgoing admin you fucking hack! Poor stupid and pathetic SR! No idea how things work. Quick! What's the wattage on this bulb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This sounds suspiciously like a "I'm part of the problem" statement. The Dems can talk and negotiate their way through this with the R's. They have a voice and still have enough power. But it's clear they aren't going to do shit. Nothing. They are gonna flail and cry the whole time while blaming the Trump admin for every little thing they can pin on him. It demonstrates how worthless, weak and childish they are. Does the Trump admin have all the answers and best way to go for sure...well hell no. But it's clear there won't be anything but shit-flinging coming from the other side of the isle. Anybody supporting them is just as foolish and ignorant. As clearly demonstrated here on FS. gee sounds a lot liek the republicans for the 8 years of the obama adminsitration Time for America to demand more of their representatives than partisan hackery. Neither party gives a fuck about middle class America and they show it constantly but yet the voters blindly defend their side all the while being bent over and fucked in the ass by their representatives. And FTR it's on the president to make attempts to lead this whole country not just the side they agree with. Obama was a failure at that and divided us more and Trumps following the same path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: gee sounds a lot liek the republicans for the 8 years of the obama adminsitration Time for America to demand more of their representatives than partisan hackery. Neither party gives a fuck about middle class America and they show it constantly but yet the voters blindly defend their side all the while being bent over and fucked in the ass by their representatives. It does...at least the first couple of years for sure. And I hated them for it also. And, after a real review of Obama's scorecard...THEY WERE RIGHT not getting on board with some of the worst policies ever to be enacted. But what we are seeing now is tantrumery to the nth degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 11, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Maybe Nixon can suggest some plumbers? Fuck dude this is NOTHING like Nixon. Any comparison is pure propaganda. Anyone with half a brain can see this. Does this stop the investigation? No. The Trump team has even said it should CONTINUE. Did the person in charge of the FBI director (He reports directly to Rob Rosenstein NOT Jeff Sessions) recommend him not be fired? NO. Did the FBI directors new boss get almost unanimous support from Dem leadership? Yes a 96-4 vote and Obama even nominated him to be the top fed prosecutor of Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 11, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: sad that right wing hacks can't see how the left would have legit concerns over these actions given the timing of it. Trump would have gotten no push back from either side if he manned up and did this in Jan. You didn't really just say that? The only way the dems would have applauded this is if Obama did it. Well check that, the minions did until they were told by Colbert how to think. Edited May 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 This Russia "investigation" has been going on informally since last June if not before. The IC and everyone who hates Trump has been doing everything they can to make this into a big deal. So far there is no evidence solid Team Trump colluded with the Russians, none. Trump is a dipshit and can't be smart enough to cover his tracks as well as some of you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1R9sledder Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: This Russia "investigation" has been going on informally since last June if not before. The IC and everyone who hates Trump has been doing everything they can to make this into a big deal. So far there is no evidence solid Team Trump colluded with the Russians, none. Trump is a dipshit and can't be smart enough to cover his tracks as well as some of you think. No wait according all the batshits there's evidence everywhere. I'm so confused I don't know who to believe anymore...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 11, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carlos Danger Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: The thing is after the Obamacare debate or lack of it the voters sent more and more Republicans to Washington with the idea they would obstruct the Democrats. I see no evidence of the reverse happening as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Highmark said: Fuck dude this is NOTHING like Nixon. Any comparison is pure propaganda. Anyone with half a brain can see this. Does this stop the investigation? No. The Trump team has even said it should CONTINUE. Did the person in charge of the FBI director (He reports directly to Rob Rosenstein NOT Jeff Sessions) recommend him not be fired? NO. Did the FBI directors new boss get almost unanimous support from Dem leadership? Yes a 96-4 vote and Obama even nominated him to be the top fed prosecutor of Maryland. Nixon secretly hired the "plumbers" to find the leaks. Your thread was about the leaks and not surprising your following right wing media and your more concerned about leaks than the actual threat of treason by a sitting president and his current or former cabinet members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 11, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Nixon secretly hired the "plumbers" to find the leaks. Your thread was about the leaks and not surprising your following right wing media and your more concerned about leaks than the actual threat of treason by a sitting president and his current or former cabinet members. When evidence is presented of treason committed by Trump and or his cabinet members I'll worry about it. Until then its nothing more than an investigation. Do you have some evidence that the rest of the world doesn't? Trump shouldn't have to hire anyone to find the leakers. The departments in question should be doing that on their own. Edited May 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backdoor Rider Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 You can show fact after fact that Drumpf conspired with the Russians to hack the election and the retaRds will never accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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