Crnr2Crnr Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 it might be Rudy... or anyone else Trump didn't pay. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/15/trump-alleged-co-conspirators-never-got-paid-by-trump-team.html now he has to sell his house https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/rudy-giuliani-selling-nyc-apartment/ poor Rudy... how far he's fallen. Trumpster sure leaves a wake of destruction behind himself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Anyone that associates themselves with Trump gets fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 and as I've thought more about it... do any of you Trumpkins feel sorry or empathy for anyone left in Trump's wake of destruction? the J6 rioters... the fake electors... Rudy... Eastman... anyone? over all this time, I've heard squat about your concern for the people who lied for and supported Donald... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 How many times does this make that you two have had reservations all made for Trump at the gray bar inn? Like Hillary Clinton picking out new curtains for the oval office. The question you should be asking is what happens if these trials don't pan out. Polls already show people think this is politically motivated and I am not talking Republicans I am saying with independents. If Trump ends up back in the Whitehouse it will be because of guys like you and your TDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The question you should be asking is what happens if these trials don't pan out. Is there an example you’d like to provide where Trumpers question what would happen if he ended up losing the election fraud cases, defamation lawsuits, etc. or is it just a one way street? Or how about the various Republican investigations that have gone nowhere? Where are the posts questioning the “what happens” when those didn’t pan out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, SSFB said: Is there an example you’d like to provide where Trumpers question what would happen if he ended up losing the election fraud cases, defamation lawsuits, etc. or is it just a one way street? My hope is that the Biden admin is the one going to jail. Fantasy, but a guy can dream. Thats where we're at. Either way, the country is fucked because half of it is going to be ape shit when their side loses. I'm ok with that. I like my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: My hope is that the Biden admin is the one going to jail. Fantasy, but a guy can dream. Thats where we're at. Either way, the country is fucked because half of it is going to be ape shit when their side loses. I'm ok with that. I like my chances. But if the Republicans lose and they go ape shit, you guys will still claim it was the Feds and Antifa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, SSFB said: But if the Republicans lose and there is unrest, you guys will still somehow blame it on Feds and Antifa. Its getting harder and harder to hide the truth. As i said, I like my chances. You want to carry D party water, have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Its getting harder and harder to hide the truth. As i said, I like my chances. You want to carry D party water, have at it. The truth is that Republicans have been whipped into a frenzy by a clown. That’s why court cases have gone the way they did. The Supreme Court rejected the election claims presented before them and just a year later overturned Roe v Wade. So when Republicans claimed that the SCOTUS was a corrupt liberal court, that was obviously false. At the same time, I think the people who think anyone of any significance is going to prison are out of their minds. If/when someone of significance actually does go to prison, I’ll shrug my shoulders and say I was wrong because I don’t give a fuck about any of these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, SSFB said: Is there an example you’d like to provide where Trumpers question what would happen if he ended up losing the election fraud cases, defamation lawsuits, etc. or is it just a one way street? Or how about the various Republican investigations that have gone nowhere? Where are the posts questioning the “what happens” when those didn’t pan out? I always assume that investigations will go nowhere in fact I think the whole point of the current SP is to slow walk and impede. I think I have made it clear I am not for a second term for Trump in 24 but that is really not the point. The level of attacks on Trump and the justification that many seem to make for the attacks I find troubling. They were tailing Schiff the other day in the hallway at the capital and asked him about the investigation into Biden and he actually said you can't run an investigation without evidence. It is like the man has never seen a mirror. I think this kind of politics is bad for our future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, SSFB said: The truth is that Republicans have been whipped into a frenzy by a clown. That’s why court cases have gone the way they did. The Supreme Court rejected the election claims presented before them and just a year later overturned Roe v Wade. So when Republicans claimed that the SCOTUS was a corrupt liberal court, that was obviously false. At the same time, I think the people who think anyone of any significance is going to prison is a fairytale. If/when someone of significance actually does go to prison, I’ll shrug my shoulders and say I was wrong because I don’t give a fuck about any of these people. My point stands. The Democratic party has crossed a line that hasn't been crossed since our founding. Trying to jail an incumbent president over horse shit? Do you see any bipartisanship, common ground being extended by the people who want to jail a guy who got the most votes of any incumbent president in history? .What the fuck do you think is going to be the fallout? You think you're just going to flame them all into silence? Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: The truth is that Republicans have been whipped into a frenzy by a clown. That’s why court cases have gone the way they did. The Supreme Court rejected the election claims presented before them and just a year later overturned Roe v Wade. So when Republicans claimed that the SCOTUS was a corrupt liberal court, that was obviously false. At the same time, I think the people who think anyone of any significance is going to prison are out of their minds. If/when someone of significance actually does go to prison, I’ll shrug my shoulders and say I was wrong because I don’t give a fuck about any of these people. You dismiss everything that got us to Trump. Voters got a look at what an out of touch ruling class looked like during the Obama years. Say what you will but closed door meetings over Healthcare, weaponizing the IRS and the general treatment of the privileged class in Washington got us to Trump. So you think more of the same in sweetheart deals to Hunter or obstruction of investigations is going to improve the situation? What happens when this two tiered system leads to someone not anti war like Trump? Was the Ukraine war inevitable or just a gulf of Tonkin moment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: My point stands. The Democratic party has crossed a line that hasn't been crossed since our founding. Trying to jail an incumbent president over horse shit? Do you see any bipartisanship, common ground being extended by the people who want to jail a guy who got the most votes of any incumbent president in history? .What the fuck do you think is going to be the fallout? You think you're just going to flame them all into silence? Good luck with that. The fact that you think it’s all bullshit is why an olive branch can’t be extended to Trumpers. Extending an olive branch is a guaranteed way to take us further into bizarro world. Your candidate is on audio tape wanting the Georgia AG to “find 11,780 votes” and you claim that the Democrats rigged the election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted August 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 17, 2023 Anyone listen to the Roger Stone audio released tonight? Gonna be more excused from MAGAt’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: You dismiss everything that got us to Trump. Voters got a look at what an out of touch ruling class looked like during the Obama years. Say what you will but closed door meetings over Healthcare, weaponizing the IRS and the general treatment of the privileged class in Washington got us to Trump. So you think more of the same in sweetheart deals to Hunter or obstruction of investigations is going to improve the situation? What happens when this two tiered system leads to someone not anti war like Trump? Was the Ukraine war inevitable or just a gulf of Tonkin moment? Trump represents a different kind of out of touch ruling class. You can’t criticize the previous administrations as out of touch and then put that guy up as the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: The fact that you think it’s all bullshit is why an olive branch can’t be extended to Trumpers. Extending an olive branch is a guaranteed way to take us further into bizarro world. Your candidate is on audio tape wanting the Georgia AG to “find 11,780 votes” and you claim that the Democrats rigged the election. Alan Dershowitz says this is exactly the conversation in the Al Gore camp in Florida. Find me the votes is what is said make me the votes is what you want to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, SSFB said: Trump represents a different kind of out of touch ruling class. You can’t criticize the previous administrations as out of touch and then put that guy up as the alternative. I think you don't understand the Donald that well. He has never really been an elite, sure he has been rich but not a blue blood like the elites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, SSFB said: The fact that you think it’s all bullshit is why an olive branch can’t be extended to Trumpers. Extending an olive branch is a guaranteed way to take us further into bizarro world. Your candidate is on audio tape wanting the Georgia AG to “find 11,780 votes” and you claim that the Democrats rigged the election. As I said, here we are. I have negative zero interest in debating what I think Trump was asking, vs what you seem to think he was asking. I can only assume that the public sector echo chamber you at least used to work in, is the explanation for your out of touch views on the electorate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Alan Dershowitz says this is exactly the conversation in the Al Gore camp in Florida. Find me the votes is what is said make me the votes is what you want to hear. Then those people need to take it to court or shut the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: As I said, here we are. I have negative zero interest in debating what I think Trump was asking, vs what you seem to think he was asking. I can only assume that the public sector echo chamber you at least used to work in, is the explanation for your out of touch views on the electorate. Yeah those rural South Dakotan GOPers that I worked with were really involved in turning me against Republicans. I realize that being true just doesn’t compute with you but understand this is why you shouldn’t make assumptions about the life experiences of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, SSFB said: Then those people need to take it to court or shut the fuck up. You think Bush's first action in office should have been the prosecution of the Al Gore campaign? You see it is clear as day if you take Trump's name out of it and that is the point. What kind of governments allow the persecution of political enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: I think you don't understand the Donald that well. He has never really been an elite, sure he has been rich but not a blue blood like the elites. Oh I understand that just fine. It chaps his ass, it’s pretty obvious. Again, not a reason to check the box by his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: You think Bush's first action in office should have been the prosecution of the Al Gore campaign? You see it is clear as day if you take Trump's name out of it and that is the point. What kind of governments allow the persecution of political enemies? Florida. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, SSFB said: Oh I understand that just fine. It chaps his ass, it’s pretty obvious. Again, not a reason to check the box by his name. He does not like the blue bloods and he sure as has never tried to become one. It is the Mar a Lago that always sticks with me. The locals hated when he bought that as whole area was a blue blood swamp. Trump's first act was to open up membership to anyone who's check cleared gone were the days of no one of color or wore a six pointed star. Trump was never out of touch like say John Kerry or the first Bush and every story you look back before politics that is the take away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, SSFB said: Florida. Are you to young for hanging chads? I forget sometimes that there are not many rings on your tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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