ActionfigureJoe Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, EvilBird said: No shit ! Glad you figured out Obama fucked us all. Another dumbfuck boomer Please break it down and explain how Obamacare caused an increase of rates. I keep reading that here, but no one has made a case that costs wouldn’t have risen at the same rate without Obamacare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Please break it down and explain how Obamacare caused an increase of rates. I keep reading that here, but no one has made a case that costs wouldn’t have risen at the same rate without Obamacare. Use Google its your friend , plenty of explanations . In short it restructured everything for the worse . But you know this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Make sure you Google Newsmax and Faux opinion pieces only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Use Google its your friend , plenty of explanations . In short it restructured everything for the worse . But you know this Are you 37? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Are you 37? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, EvilBird said: Speaking of derp - you tell us once a day how old you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Make sure you Google Newsmax and Faux opinion pieces only 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Please break it down and explain how Obamacare caused an increase of rates. I keep reading that here, but no one has made a case that costs wouldn’t have risen at the same rate without Obamacare. It lowered them. The last negotiation I did for healthcare before I retired it was around 24 K for a family plan 6 years ago. I know for a fact it’s less than that today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, EvilBird said: 8 year old “opinion” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: It lowered them. The last negotiation I did for healthcare before I retired it was around 24 K for a family plan 6 years ago. I know for a fact it’s less than that today fucking spoiled boomers ....retired "less than today" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Use Google its your friend , plenty of explanations . In short it restructured everything for the worse . But you know this In other words you don’t know. Instead you just claim to know. But embarrassingly, you don’t have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 $195/mo with dental and vision, $1700 deductible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It lowered them. The last negotiation I did for healthcare before I retired it was around 24 K for a family plan 6 years ago. I know for a fact it’s less than that today I really don’t know. I hear morons from both side of the fence claiming one or the other. It’s all political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Poor Tweetiebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Dp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: In other words you don’t know. Instead you just claim to know. But embarrassingly, you don’t have a clue. jesus christ do we really have to do this ? it has doubled premiums , it has done nothing to reduce people being uninsured , in fact it that has risen , people were not able to keep current health care plans , people were not able to keep some doctors (including me) all it did was upend the insurance market . Its a fucking failure for anyone not living in a god damn van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 12, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: jesus christ do we really have to do this ? it has doubled premiums , it has done nothing to reduce people being uninsured , in fact it that has risen , people were not able to keep current health care plans , people were not able to keep some doctors (including me) all it did was upend the insurance market . Its a fucking failure for anyone not living in a god damn van. Wow! That’s deeeeeep…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Wow! That’s deeeeeep…… You dont even have kids , dont talk to me about healthcare homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Wow! That’s deeeeeep…… I feel completely informed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: I feel completely informed now. Glad you do , because everything I said has been said 1000 times before . You scour the internet for other nonsense but expect me to write a 3 page essay explaining why Obama care is a failure ? Ya You and snowcunt keep fingering yourselves you got me ...derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It lowered them. The last negotiation I did for healthcare before I retired it was around 24 K for a family plan 6 years ago. I know for a fact it’s less than that today Wrong. Apparently your eyes are bad cause I posted above a not great family plan for 24k a yr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: Glad you do , because everything I said has been said 1000 times before . You scour the internet for other nonsense but expect me to write a 3 page essay explaining why Obama care is a failure ? Ya You and snowcunt keep fingering yourselves you got me ...derp Obama expanded the number of people who are covered. That much is true. It did nothing to address the real Issues surrounding healthcare in America. The republicans solution was just as bad. They claimed competition was the answer. How fucking ridiculous was that. By the way, I kept my doctor after Obamacare. In fact, nothing really changed up until the last 3 years when costs went up sharply and coverage declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Wow! That’s deeeeeep…… He clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 12, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Obama expanded the number of people who are covered. That much is true. It did nothing to address the real Issues surrounding healthcare in America. The republicans solution was just as bad. They claimed competition was the answer. How fucking ridiculous was that. By the way, I kept my doctor after Obamacare. In fact, nothing really changed up until the last 3 years when costs went up sharply and coverage declined. Thats great for you. I had to change my Doctor and my Dentist Its all bullshit , American Healthcare fucking sucks and isnt affordable, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: Wrong. Apparently your eyes are bad cause I posted above a not great family plan for 24k a yr Apparently you missed the $$ I quoted was 6 years ago. Cost increases averaged 6-10% per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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