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1 hour ago, akvanden said:

I thought Russia was winning though, both economically and militarily? 

They are, why do you think they are not in mainstream media 

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23 minutes ago, akvanden said:

I thought Russia was winning though, both economically and militarily? 

Depends which side of Bidens 70 billion you're on.

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2 hours ago, EvilBird said:

yahoo :lol:

15 hours ago  Russian police arrested five people who proposed officials arrest and charge Vladimir Putin with treason for his decision to launch the invasion of Ukraine, ...
 
6 hours ago  Five Russian officials arrested for proposing to remove Putin from power, charge him with treason. Fox News. Source. Fox News.
 
11 hours ago  Five Russian officials arrested for proposing to remove Putin from power, charge him with treason. Sat, September 10, 2022.
 
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2 hours ago, toslow said:

They are, why do you think they are not in mainstream media 

Yet they aren't. Russia themselves are admiting it. Militarily, absolute strategic failure, regardless of whatever land they may or may not end up annexing

"Russia’s defense ministry on Saturday admitted its forces had retreated from key towns in northeastern Ukraine after a stunning advance by Ukrainian troops.

The Defense Ministry said it had pulled forces out of the village of Balakliya and the strategically crucial city of Izyum in the Kharkiv region, after a decision to “regroup” and transfer them to Donetsk in the south.”

Economically, the same.

"Russia Privately Warns of Deep and Prolonged Economic Damage

Confidential document contrasts with upbeat public statements

Report says key sectors face sharp drop in output, brain drain"

Russia may face a longer and deeper recession as the impact of US and European sanctions spreads, handicapping sectors that the country has relied on for years to power its economy, according to an internal report prepared for the government.

The document, the result of months of work by officials and experts trying to assess the true impact of Russia’s economic isolation due to President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, paints a far more dire picture than officials usually do in their upbeat public pronouncements. Bloomberg viewed a copy of the report, drafted for a closed-door meeting of top officials on Aug. 30. People familiar with the deliberations confirmed its authenticity.

Two of the three scenarios in the report show the contraction accelerating next year, with the economy returning to the prewar level only at the end of the decade or later. The “inertial” one sees the economy bottoming out next year 8.3% below the 2021 level, while the “stress” scenario puts the low in 2024 at 11.9% under last year’s level.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-05/russia-risks-bigger-longer-sanctions-hit-internal-report-warns



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2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Yes, definately not the rightous invading side. 

Is it considered invading if it was taken away from you originally?

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4 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Is it considered invading if it was taken away from you originally?

Taken away? Should we be worried about the UK coming back for it's 13 colonies?

I don't remember Russia using the "taken away" excuse as one of their pretexts for their "special miltary operation."

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25 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Taken away? Should we be worried about the UK coming back for it's 13 colonies?

I don't remember Russia using the "taken away" excuse as one of their pretexts for their "special miltary operation."

You don't remember Ukraine was a member of the Soviet Union either I suppose.

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