Mileage Psycho Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Very powerful, it's hard to believe what these people have endured. There are six parts at the link. http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/world/return-to-mosul/?iid=ob_lockedrail_bottomlarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 why was it we left so ISIS could take it over again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: why was it we left so ISIS could take it over again? why was it we went there in the first place you fucking idiot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: why was it we left so ISIS could take it over again? are you fucking serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, spin_dry said: are you fucking serious? yes , he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, f7ben said: why was it we went there in the first place you fucking idiot Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 9, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said: Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. Why....what was wrong in the world oil market that necessitated the invasion of Iraq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said: Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, Biggie Smails said: Why....what was wrong in the world oil market that necessitated the invasion of Iraq? Iraq has more known reserves than any country on the planet,regardless of what you might read elsewhere. Those reserves are super easy to get to and they are very close to existing transportation systems. BP, Exxon and Chevron solicited their respective governments and essentially convinced them that once Saddam Hussein was gone they would be able to get oil to market from some of the dilapidated fields in mere months. The US and Britain just knew the Iraqi people would welcome them with open arms and would love the wealth all these oil resources would create for the average iraqi. Dozens of other countries in the region and africa had brutal dictators and we didn't invade those countries. The difference is they don't have any oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war Yea. All those things played a part too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: that was a small part of it ....the bigger part was to blow through a few trillion in ordinance so we could buy new stuff....and to funnel a few more trillion to defense contractors pockets........also just to test americans appetite for fairly low casualty perpetual war it's a lot simpler than that. baby bush was sore about saddam threatening his daddy. how long do you think it would take saddam to clean up isis? Edited March 9, 2017 by spin_dry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, spin_dry said: it's a lot simpler than that. baby bush was sore about sadism threatening his daddy. how long do you think it would take sadism to clean up isis? Also true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said: Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. imo that was the original plan, when they thought we'd march right in there to cheers and flowers. once things got ugly and hatred for us went exponential, i think they had to divvy the oil up more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: it's a lot simpler than that. baby bush was sore about sadism threatening his daddy. how long do you think it would take sadism to clean up isis? there never would have been an isis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Those in the know at the time knew exactly what they were doing....there are many interviews siting the "power vacuum" that would be left if we deposed sadaam. I think things worked exactly as they thought they would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: there never would have been an isis the invasion of iraq was the single largest military blunder in the history of the fucking world. the mess will reverberate for decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Those in the know at the time knew exactly what they were doing....there are many interviews siting the "power vacuum" that would be left if we deposed sadaam. I think things worked exactly as they thought they would yep, there's video of darth cheney himself stating just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: yep, there's video of darth cheney himself stating just that it was well known ......they knew that throwing the middle east into perpetual turmoil would provide them decades of boogeymen to terrify americans with conning them out of their rights and their wealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: imo that was the original plan, when they thought we'd march right in there to cheers and flowers. once things got ugly and hatred for us went exponential, i think they had to divvy the oil up more. I haven't searched about it much but the last time I looked you couldn't find anything on the internet about Exxon, BP and Chevron's operations in Iraq. They all three have huge operations there. BP is producing almost 1.5 Million BOPD out of Iraq now. Exxon is over 1 Million BOPD. Chevron is a close 3rd. The US and British government is protecting their expatriates with armed forces. Last month when Iraq got pissed off because of the Trump travel Ban and threatened to retaliate US oil workers were exempt from that retaliation. Oil is powerful stuff. IT makes people and governments do crazy things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Dick lived up to his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Back Country Rebel said: I haven't searched about it much but the last time I looked you couldn't find anything on the internet about Exxon, BP and Chevron's operations in Iraq. They all three have huge operations there. BP is producing almost 1.5 Million BOPD out of Iraq now. Exxon is over 1 Million BOPD. Chevron is a close 3rd. The US and British government is protecting their expatriates with armed forces. Last month when Iraq got pissed off because of the Trump travel Ban and threatened to retaliate US oil workers were exempt from that retaliation. Oil is powerful stuff. IT makes people and governments do crazy things. yep, and now iraq isn't on the list at all. tillerson probably squashed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Dick lived up to his name. he was a great american just like Bush, woolie told me so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 41 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said: Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Back Country Rebel said: Oil. It's why BP, ExxonMobile and Chevron are still there. Only a momo couldn't understand that. so we went to fight for oil that we in the usa don't even use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: yep, and now iraq isn't on the list at all. tillerson probably squashed that. Yep. He's already the best SoS we've had in decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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