hayward Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Snoslinger said: pipe scrapping, new pipe building workers. duh. isn't jobs what this is all about? Technically it's still about jobs, but it was supposed to be about American jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Its not fake....and its pretty sad damn......it really is shitty. I support the guy but not for shit like this. This is a double-cross. The fucker had to know the pipe was already laying there. If he says not how ill informed of a president is he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, hayward said: damn......it really is shitty. I support the guy but not for shit like this. This is a double-cross. The fucker had to know the pipe was already laying there. If he says not how ill informed of a president is he? I'm surprised they would make 1200 miles of pipe having no fucking clue if they could build it, sounds like a gamble shareholders would not be to happy about to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Momorider said: I'm surprised they would make 1200 miles of pipe having no fucking clue if they could build it, sounds like a gamble shareholders would not be to happy about to me You sound like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 25% was to come from Saskatchewan, 25% India and Italy and 50% from Arkansas. Not sure how much is already purchased or manufactured, but that was to be the original breakdown. I don't imagine there are that many pipe mills set up to build that kind of pipe. The irony is that the pipe coming from here is made by Evraz, a Rusian company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 The pipe is called spiral weld pipe and is made from flat roll ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Also trump was claiming that "the steel for the dakota access pipeline must be american steel" even though that pipeline is 99% complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: You sound like this... You look like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Momorider said: I'm surprised they would make 1200 miles of pipe having no fucking clue if they could build it, sounds like a gamble shareholders would not be to happy about to me Yep and Trump isn't the only one to blame here. They didn't build 1200miles of pipe in two months...... What part of this whole deal wasn't a go until Trump came in? In the article it says some was completed in 2013 and pumping, or was that not part of the "keystone pipeline"? Was Keystone just connecting to that? I'm confuse, but that's typical... Edited March 5, 2017 by hayward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, hayward said: Yep and Trump isn't the only one to blame here. They didn't build 1200miles of pipe in two months...... What part of this whole deal wasn't a go until Trump came in? In the article it says some was completed in 2013 and pumping, or was that not part of the "keystone pipeline"? Was Keystone just connecting to that? I'm confuse, but that's typical... The green is Keystone XL, which is the part that Obama shit canned. The others are previous phases of Keystone, which are now complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, f7ben said: The pipe is called spiral weld pipe and is made from flat roll ..... Here, Evraz has a steel mill and the spiral mill on the same site. The just finished adding another spiral line in the last year or so. They bought it from United Spiral in Cali and moved it up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Thanks. So the XL looks to be about 30% in Canada and the remainder on U.S. soil. So if 50% of the steel is U.S. steel, and used on U.S. soil, that leaves 20% of the steel needed on U.S. soil to be from who knows where. What they use on Canadian soil I don't care, but what's on U.S. soil should be U.S. steel, especially if Trump made the promise. But, I guess it isn't bad that it's technically only 20% that won't be u.s. steel, on u.s. soil. I can see why it'd piss people off though that it didn't go as he promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, sledderj said: Here, Evraz has a steel mill and the spiral mill on the same site. The just finished adding another spiral line in the last year or so. They bought it from United Spiral in Cali and moved it up here. Yah ....we bought a mill in Columbus Mississippi from Severstal steel just because they did spiral and then the oil market shit the bed....we have since upgrade them with paint and galv lines etc and they are now much less dependent on the oil sector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, hayward said: Thanks. So the XL looks to be about 30% in Canada and the remainder on U.S. soil. So if 50% of the steel is U.S. steel, and used on U.S. soil, that leaves 20% of the steel needed on U.S. soil to be from who knows where. What they use on Canadian soil I don't care, but what's on U.S. soil should be U.S. steel, especially if Trump made the promise. But, I guess it isn't bad that it's technically only 20% that won't be u.s. steel, on u.s. soil. I can see why it'd piss people off though that it didn't go as he promised. the US isnt building the pipeline ...transcanada is.....and they can use whatever they want for steel. Trump lied ...plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah ....we bought a mill in Columbus Mississippi from Severstal steel just because they did spiral and then the oil market shit the bed....we have since upgrade them with paint and galv lines etc and they are now much less dependent on the oil sector Up to what diameter can that mill do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, sledderj said: Up to what diameter can that mill do? Not sure I'd have to check. I know they have the widest flat roll sections in our whole company and I assume that is because of the pipe capabilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 actually now that I am thinking about that plant it seems they may have just been a supplier with their main customer being a spiral welder etc. I dont think they actually produce the pipe....just the wide flat roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 5, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Doesn't look like Ben will be moving back up north..... IFL!!!!! Edited March 5, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Trump could be the best president in the last 30 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 does this really surprise anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Trump could be the best president in the last 30 years 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 why does it run to the gulf of mexico? what purpose does that serve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledderj Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 47 minutes ago, spin_dry said: why does it run to the gulf of mexico? what purpose does that serve? For starter's, that's where the refinery capacity is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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