Mainecat Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Trump Blames SEALs Death On Military: They Lost Ryan Link to tweet President Donald Trump on Tuesday dodged responsibility for a botched mission he ordered in Yemen last month, placing the onus on the military and Barack Obama’s administration instead. Bill Owens, the father of Chief Petty Officer William “Ryan” Owens, the Navy SEAL who died in the operation, demanded an investigation into his son’s death over the weekend. Owens further revealed he couldn’t bear to meet Trump at the airport as Ryan’s casket was carried off the military plane last month. Asked about the matter during an interview with Fox News’ “Fox ‘n’ Friends,” Trump repeatedly said “they” were responsible for the outcome of the mission, in reference to the military. “This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do,” he said. “They came to me, they explained what they wanted to do ― the generals ― who are very respected, my generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan. “I can understand people saying that. I’d feel ― ‘What’s worse?’ There’s nothing worse,” he added. “This was something that they were looking at for a long time doing, and according to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis it was a very successful mission. They got tremendous amounts of information.” read: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ryan-owens-seal-raid_us_58b58852e4b0780bac2d58c6?l4u6jemi Link to tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 it's always the same old line "we saved a lot of lives". they treat the public like idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, spin_dry said: it's always the same old line "we saved a lot of lives". they treat the public like idiots. You fit that demographic AFJSpookclownfuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 not "we" lost ryan, "they" did Obama doesn't own one iota of this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 It gets a little confusing. If the mission was a success because of the intel they found, Why is he passing the blame to Obama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 Quote “This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do,” he said. “They came to me, they explained what they wanted to do ― the generals ― who are very respected, my generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan. In the end though, he shouldn't be pushing the blame off on anyone. They all were a part of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: In the end though, he shouldn't be pushing the blame off on anyone. They all were a part of it Trump gave the order, he owns it sorry and any decent leader would take responsibility for his decisions. He could have said "no" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, ICEMAN! said: Trump gave the order, he owns it sorry and any decent leader would take responsibility for his decisions. He could have said "no" They all own it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Skidooski said: They all own it! Why does Obama own any of it? The military came up with the mission and Obama's only part in this was to say "no" unless you think that Obama sat around with the Generals planning out a Yemen raid....lmao! Duhhhhh Trump said yes. It's on him. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 one thing for sure...had this mission been a huge success w/no losses, there'd be no mention of obama, or "we". it'd be all "I". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Why does Obama own any of it? The military came up with the mission and Obama's only part in this was to say "no" unless you think that Obama sat around with the Generals planning out a Yemen raid....lmao! Duhhhhh Trump said yes. It's on him. Period. Holy shit.....Where did I say anything about Obama? Don't let your extreme bias show so quickly FFS I posted a quote from the OP and you got all chapped ass. Trump approved what the military had been wanting to do for some time now. THEY all own it! THEY all put soldiers in harms way! THEY all are responsible for it! THEY = Trump and the military....Not Obama you triggered twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: one thing for sure...had this mission been a huge success w/no losses, there'd be no mention of obama, or "we". it'd be all "I". Nobody knows more about successful mission then the Trumpster...nobody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I wonder what formal generals, who've served in the last several decades, think about trump's remarks about him having "the best generals in decades". this guy certainly knows how to make enemies, which will be his demise. soon, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 Too many thinned skinned easily offended people these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Holy shit.....Where did I say anything about Obama? Don't let your extreme bias show so quickly FFS I posted a quote from the OP and you got all chapped ass. Trump approved what the military had been wanting to do for some time now. THEY all own it! THEY all put soldiers in harms way! THEY all are responsible for it! THEY = Trump and the military....Not Obama you triggered twat Oh yea, where oh where would I possibly come up with the idea that Obama was being discussed here....hmmmmmm......fucking duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "President Donald Trump on Tuesday dodged responsibility for a botched mission he ordered in Yemen last month, placing the onus on the military and Barack Obama’s administration instead." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Trump gave the order, he owns it sorry and any decent leader would take responsibility for his decisions. He could have said "no" And the rules of engagament magically changed January 20th. 6 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: one thing for sure...had this mission been a huge success w/no losses, there'd be no mention of obama, or "we". it'd be all "I". 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: I wonder what formal generals, who've served in the last several decades, think about trump's remarks about him having "the best generals in decades". this guy certainly knows how to make enemies, which will be his demise. soon, hopefully. The same way I feel when he say we Will have the best military again; proud. You really couldn't have a demographic as much misunderstood as you and the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Snake said: And the rules of engagament magically changed January 20th. The same way I feel when he say we Will have the best military again; proud. You really couldn't have a demographic as much misunderstood as you and the military. you're saying that because you probably consider the military great when you were in, but when Obama took over it turned bad. let me ask you this - if you had been a great UPS driver for 10 years under manager A, then manager B comes in, fires you and hires driver C, then states they now have the best driver they've had in decades... you wouldn't be pissed? proud paleeeeeezzzzz Edited March 1, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Oh yea, where oh where would I possibly come up with the idea that Obama was being discussed here....hmmmmmm......fucking duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "President Donald Trump on Tuesday dodged responsibility for a botched mission he ordered in Yemen last month, placing the onus on the military and Barack Obama’s administration instead." Great so take it up with someone else then moron. Nowhere did I mention anything about Obama now fuck off with your whiney shit and your 10 year old antics. Read my posts again slowly or have them read to you be someone competent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: you're saying that because you probably consider the military great when you were in, but when Obama took over it turned bad. let me ask you this - if you had been a great UPS driver for 10 years under manager A, then manager B comes in, fires you and hires driver C, then states they now have the best driver they've had in decades... you wouldn't be pissed? paleeeeeezzzzz I can't be fired. I'm union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 i'll take that as a "yes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: i'll take that as a "yes" First of all.. I'm a GREAT driver. 28 years. If I got fired, I would deserve it. Second of all, again, you are dealing in strawmen and highly unlikely scenarios to push some kind of alternate reality only you can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Great so take it up with someone else then moron. Nowhere did I mention anything about Obama now fuck off with your whiney shit and your 10 year old antics. Read my posts again slowly or have them read to you be someone competent Well the topic was Obama, so if you weren't including him in your collective "they are all responsible" comments, you should have said so. We can't read your mind you dumbfuck. Go back to sleep you moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Well the topic was Obama, so if you weren't including him in your collective "they are all responsible" comments, you should have said so. We can't read your mind you dumbfuck. Go back to sleep you moron. Trump Blames SEALs Death On Military: They Lost Ryan I don't see Obama's name in there? Who is president now? Who did the military go to for this? Who agreed to it? Who planned it? You can't read my mind or my posts apparently Post again and dig yourself a deeper hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snoslinger Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Snake said: First of all.. I'm a GREAT driver. 28 years. If I got fired, I would deserve it. Second of all, again, you are dealing in strawmen and highly unlikely scenarios to push some kind of alternate reality only you can see. highly unlikely scenarios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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