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Just now, spin_dry said:

Thousands of Ukrainians died at the hands of Russian backed separatists during those years. Trump turned the other way. 

Is that the genocide the Ukrainian Nazis engaged in in the Donbass

 

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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

Still no detail as to what that deterrent might have been, assuming Russia wanted to during that timeframe.

Only one difference.

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39 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Putin is now threatening Sweden and Finland. If they join NATO or even talk about it they’ll be in trouble. Who the fuck does he think he is? Putin is a fucking cancer in the world stage. 

you mean they are acting like we did when russia wanted to put missiles 50 miles from Florida :dunno:   

Russia/USSR always had a buffer NATO trying to let the buffer countries become members is a legit security concern.  

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Just now, Angry ginger said:

you mean they are acting like we did when russia wanted to put missiles 50 miles from Florida :dunno:   

Russia/USSR always had a buffer NATO trying to let the buffer countries become members is a legit security concern.  

 No ....NATO has DEFENSIVE MISSILES and Russia wanted to put OFFENSIVE MISSILES on Cuba. If you can’t see the difference you must be watching CNN DERRR

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3 minutes ago, Anler said:

Is that the genocide the Ukrainian Nazis engaged in in the Donbass

 

No. These were 1st and 2nd army corp formations of the Russian army stirring up shit in a sovereign nation. Same crew that shot down the Malaysian airliner killing all on board. 

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3 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Only one difference.

Ok, so it wouldn't have happened under Trump because I don't know why. Got it. 

It is possible for things to happen in this world regardless of US president. Surprisingly, we don't control everything nor do we always have the leverage. 

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1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

No. These were 1st and 2nd army corp formations of the Russian army stirring up shit in a sovereign nation. Same crew that shot down the Malaysian airliner killing all on board. 

But no Ukrainian Nazis were involved? 

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Just now, akvanden said:

Ok, so it wouldn't have happened under Trump because I don't know why. Got it. 

It is possible for things to happen in this world regardless of US president. Surprisingly, we don't control everything nor do we always have the leverage. 

You're a liberal. I feel your pain. Actually I don't 

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2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

you mean they are acting like we did when russia wanted to put missiles 50 miles from Florida :dunno:   

Russia/USSR always had a buffer NATO trying to let the buffer countries become members is a legit security concern.  

Was nato threatening to put missiles in Chechnya? Georgia? Crimea? How about the others he’s invaded and disrupted since “91? 

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3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

you mean they are acting like we did when russia wanted to put missiles 50 miles from Florida :dunno:   

Russia/USSR always had a buffer NATO trying to let the buffer countries become members is a legit security concern.  

 

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

 No ....NATO has DEFENSIVE MISSILES and Russia wanted to put OFFENSIVE MISSILES on Cuba. If you can’t see the difference you must be watching CNN DERRR

So Russia can arm it's borders, but other countries can't arm theirs? Should we tell Russia to stop putting missiles on it's borders or else NATO will have to invade? 

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1 minute ago, Steve753 said:

You're a liberal. I feel your pain. Actually I don't 

Actually you are a liberal....Donald Trump is also a Liberal. Remember when Trump banned bump stocks and said he supported red flag laws? 

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Just now, akvanden said:

 

So Russia can arm it's borders, but other countries can't arm theirs? Should we tell Russia to stop putting missiles on it's borders or else NATO will have to invade? 

I don’t think you understand the leverage that is afforded to world super powers. 

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Just now, Anler said:

He wont be happy until we have nuclear war

Well they said we were all going to parish in 2012. Better late than never.

Makes all the taxation pointless too!!!

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1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Actually you are a liberal....Donald Trump is also a Liberal. Remember when Trump banned bump stocks and said he supported red flag laws? 

So you're saying when you do stupid things that makes you a liberal?

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1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

Was nato threatening to put missiles in Chechnya? Georgia? Crimea? How about the others he’s invaded and disrupted since “91? 

Yes. CIA, Mossad and Brit6 already had their NGO's in those places to start their shenanigans when Putin crushed it. When Putin saw what they were doing in Ukraine he had to position himself for war with the west before he moved. 

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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

It's just a simple question that no one can answer with any detail. No worries. 

Trump said he would nuke Moscow. Obviously Trump never said anything he didn’t 100% mean.

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Just now, Anler said:

Yes. CIA, Mossad and Brit6 already had their NGO's in those places to start their shenanigans when Putin crushed it. When Putin saw what they were doing in Ukraine he had to position himself for war with the west before he moved. 

Bullshit. Is this more Jimmy dore propaganda? 

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Just now, Steve753 said:

So you're saying when you do stupid things that makes you a liberal?

I guess if your definition of Liberal is “thing I don’t like” then it’s kind of a moving target 

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3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Trump said he would nuke Moscow. Obviously Trump never said anything he didn’t 100% mean.

Now that's the kind of tough, thoughtful, leadership this country needs. 

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25 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Did Russia invade anywhere from 2017 to 2021?

OK…so what do you think Trump would have done if it happened during his term? What would you have wanted him to do? 
Beyond that don’t you think that maybe Putin didn’t invade then because he knew Trump was working to weaken NATO and ultimately pull The United States out of the organization.🤷🏻

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