taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Picked up the 22 RR today.....and dropped it off at the dyno immediately after........... Tore the ADAPT apart to look inside. Interesting in many ways..... More to come once we get out of break-in and can start getting some pulls on it....... 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 subscribed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CFM 4,397 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Taperk600 - you a tuner or racer or ? Just asking cause not many private people pull right onto dyno, yet i know a few do. Just getting s jist so i know while following thread. I like this stuff. :thumbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, CFM said: Taperk600 - you a tuner or racer or ? Just asking cause not many private people pull right onto dyno, yet i know a few do. Just getting s jist so i know while following thread. I like this stuff. :thumbs Just a guy with a bunch of good friends.....LOL..... Stay tuned.....depending on how I feel about how this goes here, will depend on what I post.............. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frostynuts 558 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just remember, a good dishonest dyno operator can give you the results you are looking for, whether you want great bragging numbers, or piss poor ones, cause you hate the brand. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Frostynuts said: Just remember, a good dishonest dyno operator can give you the results you are looking for, whether you want great bragging numbers, or piss poor ones, cause you hate the brand. LOL This isn't his first rodeo. Show some respect, watch and you might learn something from him. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnstang 875 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Excited to hear more feedback about the new clutch as the season goes. Sleeper change for 22? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bontz 2,428 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Looking forward to what @taperk600 posts ... he's definitely one of the "good guys" when it comes to this stuff. I hope you get the results (or better) that you're expecting, Tom!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Frostynuts said: Just remember, a good dishonest dyno operator can give you the results you are looking for, whether you want great bragging numbers, or piss poor ones, cause you hate the brand. LOL And these are the comments that result in guys not sharing their knowledge...... I'm not looking for any bragging rights, specific numbers, or anything else. And I have zero reason to share what we find with anyone here. BTW---- the dyno "operator" is a friend who I have known 30+ yrs. And I have know the shop he is at for my whole life.....and they have a terrific reputation. No reason for anyone to distort what we find. But also need to remember every dyno is different. And every day on the dyno is different from any other. Different air temps, densities, etc...... it's all just a snap shot of that day and time...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bontz said: Looking forward to what @taperk600 posts ... he's definitely one of the "good guys" when it comes to this stuff. I hope you get the results (or better) that you're expecting, Tom!! Thanks Bontz. Not so much looking for anything different than the 20 or 21 as far as results. More looking at what's different. So far, zip on the motor. Numbers are following the same as the past 2 seasons. But the new clutches will be....... track dyno will show if they are better or not. Shop already located a couple areas to focus on, etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 hours ago, mnstang said: Excited to hear more feedback about the new clutch as the season goes. Sleeper change for 22? I am very interested to see how these perform also. Found a couple questionable internals so far but it looks like the primary could be much more efficient over past ones. Not sure on a sleeper......basically doing the same as I've done on my 20 & 21..... with a few improvements found along the way...... full exhaust, breathers, head mod, ECU adjustments, etc........... get into the 170s and I'll be okay. Don't need the 180s like my 18 and 19 were....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bontz 2,428 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 In defense of @Frostynuts .. I do think he was just trying to make a joke and get a laugh. Not throwing any discredit to the shop/operator that @taperk600 is using. At least that's how I'm reading his comment. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: This isn't his first rodeo. Show some respect, watch and you might learn something from him. Yes it is.......... And I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night...... AND..... for those who know this one......... I'm good at everything except the things that I can't do 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnstang 875 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, taperk600 said: I am very interested to see how these perform also. Found a couple questionable internals so far but it looks like the primary could be much more efficient over past ones. Not sure on a sleeper......basically doing the same as I've done on my 20 & 21..... with a few improvements found along the way...... full exhaust, breathers, head mod, ECU adjustments, etc........... get into the 170s and I'll be okay. Don't need the 180s like my 18 and 19 were....... I'll be interested in one or more than one if they turn out good. Looks like the clutch is cheaper than the team. And the weights are way cheaper! $7 each vs $55 each. Wish they'd make one in 30mm too for the older sleds but I won't hold my breath 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, taperk600 said: Yes it is.......... And I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night...... AND..... for those who know this one......... I'm good at everything except the things that I can't do Look forward to seeing the baseline and incremental improvement in each stage again. I still refernce settings and things you and others tested tried and dialed in on the SP's, and adjust for personal preferences and local conditions. Also thanks to you, I got to learn about the pleasure of rebuilding the 720 mod engine last winter. Keep the beta and conversation coming, hopefully we can drag Procross 225, Techmaples, and Joey over here as well to keep the useful information flowing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnstang 875 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Look forward to seeing the baseline and incremental improvement in each stage again. I still refernce settings and things you and others tested tried and dialed in on the SP's, and adjust for personal preferences and local conditions. Also thanks to you, I got to learn about the pleasure of rebuilding the 720 mod engine last winter. Keep the beta and conversation coming, hopefully we can drag Procross 225, Techmaples, and Joey over here as well to keep the useful information flowing. And Joe and Jim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zambroski 24,068 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bontz said: In defense of @Frostynuts .. I do think he was just trying to make a joke and get a laugh. Not throwing any discredit to the shop/operator that @taperk600 is using. At least that's how I'm reading his comment. Concur. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Concur. stfu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frostynuts 558 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Bontz said: In defense of @Frostynuts .. I do think he was just trying to make a joke and get a laugh. Not throwing any discredit to the shop/operator that @taperk600 is using. At least that's how I'm reading his comment. Exactly, people need to lighten up, in these troubled times. Thanks Bontz. I,m looking forward to seeing the track dyno results, along with what all is new, and better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Crappy day for some stock testing on Tuesday .......... high 40s, pouring rain, crap air quality........ but with all things being equal, seeing about the same as we had been seeing with the Cat Ctec2 800 the past 2 years...... 1st chart is all stock, just out of the rev limiter and in full break-in 2nd chart is after more run time, still in break-in but less added fuel (still full added oil) 3rd chart is with Bullseyes, D&D stock reflash (still in break-in). So on this day, with these crappy weather conditions, we saw the additional airflow and better mapping gave us +/- 10 hp 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Looks like 8100 is the sweet spot. Graph #1 illustrates what kind of power the sleds have at the shootout, which I feel is silly. They should allow Jim at DTR to get all the sleds competing out of break in mode and keep them under lock and key until race day imo. Edited October 28, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnstang 875 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Looks like 8100 is the sweet spot. Graph #1 illustrates what kind of power the sleds have at the shootout, which I feel is silly. They should allow Jim at DTR to get all the sleds competing out of break in mode and keep them under lock and key until race day imo. Or just get hot ecu's from one manufacturer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 https://fb.watch/8X4k2yZS8W/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taperk600 69 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 Still mid-high 40 degree temps....but at least it wasn't pouring out today....... A few more ponies on this one....... and a nice wide band....... Wish it was in the 30s today........... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,863 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, taperk600 said: Still mid-high 40 degree temps....but at least it wasn't pouring out today....... A few more ponies on this one....... and a nice wide band....... Wish it was in the 30s today........... bullseyes, riot pipe flash, and still in break-in? when does the pipe go on? good #'s Tom Edited October 29, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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