1jkw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: On par with the wealthy? does that mean I'm supposed to agree with the theft of their money based on the 47% ers greed and envy? It's guys like you that that use other peoples wealth to justify your greed and envy for other people money rather than address the runaway spending and waste of our government programs . Grow up , your childish argument are ,laughable ......... ,, If you think they are paying too much get your red states to quit taking far more back in federal subsidies then. You keep confusing things, the red states piss and moan about taxes while living off the taxes of the wealthy in the blue states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, 1jkw said: If you think they are paying too much get your red states to quit taking far more back in federal subsidies then. You keep confusing things, the red states piss and moan about taxes while living off the taxes of the wealthy in the blue states. Maybe you and your 47%er pals should stop whining about the rich and pay your fair share if you think the government needs more money.? You keep pissing and moaning about other peoples money rather than realize you and your pals are living off the earnings of those evil rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Listen to this. I have a sister in law who has 400k in the bank in retirement accounts..reg IRA'S and Roth IRA"S. She is on Medicaid and gets food stamps and H.E.A.P. Has not worked in at least 3 years...I think shes 62 or 63. She draws a Social Security check on her ex husband earnings. ..which is only like 600 a month. fawked up deal eh? But it's true. Edited June 20, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, Sleepr2 said: Maybe you and your 47%er pals should stop whining about the rich and pay your fair share if you think the government needs more money.? You keep pissing and moaning about other peoples money rather than realize you and your pals are living off the earnings of those evil rich. One more time read it and try to comprehend, I pay taxes always have, I am not whining and pay my fair share that the red states get more of than I do, the difference is the red states who don't pay their fair share are the ones bitching that is the point. My money and the money from my state is sent to cover red states and that is a fact, and yet the red states feel they are getting screwed. Eliminate every social low income program there is it won't effect me one bit, but it will effect 10's of millions of people especially the one that live in the poorest states that happen to be red. Post up one time where I have ever said the rich don't pay their fair share or are evil, you can't so quit lying and saying I did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 43 minutes ago, 1jkw said: If you think they are paying too much get your red states to quit taking far more back in federal subsidies then. You keep confusing things, the red states piss and moan about taxes while living off the taxes of the wealthy in the blue states. Im all for cutting blacks, indians and whites off welfare. Im also all for states managing the lands inside their borders so the fed govt doesnt have too. Libs wont let that happen though so we are stuck with what we got.... Libs keeping blacks and indians in red states and keeping all the land. Their is more fed land to manage in some redstates single handlily then all the blue states combined. Im all for cutting it all so the redstates dont get tax money. not going to happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Im all for cutting blacks, indians and whites off welfare. Im also all for states managing the lands inside their borders so the fed govt doesnt have too. Libs wont let that happen though so we are stuck with what we got.... Libs keeping blacks and indians in red states and keeping all the land. Their is more fed land to manage in some redstates single handlily then all the blue states combined. Im all for cutting it all so the redstates dont get tax money. not going to happen though. What state are you from? There are many sources of income that pay for national parks and the parks themselves bring in huge sums of tourist dollars to the state and local governments. Eliminate the some red states you talk about and they still will get a larger % of tax subsidy. Compare the number of people that live in NY or Pa and what we get in tax subsidy and then compare the number of people who just live in NYC, Philly, that are black. The libs the cons nobody is making anybody live anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, 1jkw said: What state are you from? There are many sources of income that pay for national parks and the parks themselves bring in huge sums of tourist dollars to the state and local governments. Eliminate the some red states you talk about and they still will get a larger % of tax subsidy. Compare the number of people that live in NY or Pa and what we get in tax subsidy and then compare the number of people who just live in NYC, Philly, that are black. The libs the cons nobody is making anybody live anywhere. LOL! stuck on stupid again eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 35 minutes ago, 1jkw said: One more time read it and try to comprehend, I pay taxes always have, I am not whining and pay my fair share that the red states get more of than I do, the difference is the red states who don't pay their fair share are the ones bitching that is the point. My money and the money from my state is sent to cover red states and that is a fact, and yet the red states feel they are getting screwed. Eliminate every social low income program there is it won't effect me one bit, but it will effect 10's of millions of people especially the one that live in the poorest states that happen to be red. Post up one time where I have ever said the rich don't pay their fair share or are evil, you can't so quit lying and saying I did. BS ! you're a 47%er , or a typical liberal like Franken ,Daschle and Kerry. (liberal taxdodgers) and you and your pals lie constantly that the rich are not taxed enough, Your compassion is limited only by how much money you can take from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 1jkw said: What state are you from? There are many sources of income that pay for national parks and the parks themselves bring in huge sums of tourist dollars to the state and local governments. Eliminate the some red states you talk about and they still will get a larger % of tax subsidy. Compare the number of people that live in NY or Pa and what we get in tax subsidy and then compare the number of people who just live in NYC, Philly, that are black. The libs the cons nobody is making anybody live anywhere. Idaho... 60% of the land in this state is ownd by the feds. Very little of it is a national park... Most of it is just land that see no tourism benefit. We have indians as well that get huge federal money.... Why cause the white many took the lands that was their's. Then we have salmon that are endangered species that they have million upon millions of dollars sunk i so that natives can have subsistence life style. I think we are middle of the road on uptake in fed dollars. We have some rather amazing forest service stuff.... New diesel rams with gov plates, northwest jet boats, behind them or a polaris show room floor being towed by them. Why??? To manage fed lands that really dont need managed. There is about 32 million acres of federal land to manage in my state. 60 percent of the state is owned by the fed govt..... By comparison NY, and PA combine doesnt even break a million acres to manage you can throw in conneticuts 8,000 acres of federal land to NY and PA and its still not close to a million acres to manage. Every morning there are trains of ram and chevy and ford pickups with toys behind them heading out to manage that federal land in my state. Fed land cost more to manage then it takes in by far! Edited June 20, 2016 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 Also we get to pay 20 billion to indians cause we stole their shit and rounded them up. As soverign nations they dont pay tax or collect tax! Works fucking great for the tax payer. Pay indians and get casinos and concert venues that dolly pardon and kenny rodgers can continue their careers at. indians cost alot and contribute next to nothing in tax dollars. But those things we cant change so it will always tilt to red states getting more tax dollars. Unless you cut off funding to federal lands and minorities. Prolly wont happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Sleepr2 said: BS ! you're a 47%er , or a typical liberal like Franken ,Daschle and Kerry. (liberal taxdodgers) and you and your pals lie constantly that the rich are not taxed enough, Your compassion is limited only by how much money you can take from others. Boy you just don't get it, I have never said that dem. sponsored programs aren't paid for by the wealthier Americans, nor have I ever said that the rich aren't taxed enough. The whole point here is the party that bitches the most about taxes ( guys like you) is the party that gets the most tax dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Capt.Storm said: Listen to this. I have a sister in law who has 400k in the bank in retirement accounts..reg IRA'S and Roth IRA"S. She is on Medicaid and gets food stamps and H.E.A.P. Has not worked in at least 3 years...I think shes 62 or 63. She draws a Social Security check on her ex husband earnings. ..which is only like 600 a month. fawked up deal eh? But it's true. What does she draw out of those every year, maybe 30K, before taxes? 400K in retirement will not give you a lavish lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 7 hours ago, BOHICA said: Also we get to pay 20 billion to indians cause we stole their shit and rounded them up. As soverign nations they dont pay tax or collect tax! Works fucking great for the tax payer. Pay indians and get casinos and concert venues that dolly pardon and kenny rodgers can continue their careers at. indians cost alot and contribute next to nothing in tax dollars. But those things we cant change so it will always tilt to red states getting more tax dollars. Unless you cut off funding to federal lands and minorities. Prolly wont happen though. So Idaho has a large Indian population and federally run land, What about the other red states that don't have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 1jkw said: So Idaho has a large Indian population and federally run land, What about the other red states that don't have them? Do you have a state in particular that you can use as an example? Edited June 20, 2016 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 20, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, racer254 said: Do you have a state in particular that you can use as an example? . Pick one: States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid: 1. New Mexico: $2.63 2. West Virginia: $2.57 3. Mississippi: $2.47 4. District of Colombia: $2.41 5. Hawaii: $2.38 6. Alabama: $2.03 7. Alaska: $1.93 8. Montana: $1.92 9. South Carolina: $1.92 10. Maine: $1.78 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps Edited June 20, 2016 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, 1jkw said: So Idaho has a large Indian population and federally run land, What about the other red states that don't have them? Lets take mississippi for example... Next to the district columbia it prolly is the worst on taxes paid vs benefit. 1.5 million acres of fed land.... More than the north east combined almost. Also it's population next to the district of columbia has the largest percent of black people by a large amount..... Like 40 percent of the state population. Blacks arent notorious for be successful outside of athletics... Like i said blue states dont want states to have federal land in the states hand to control and they like keeping minorities in poverty. Blue states arent cutting mississippi black people off of welfare... Not happening no matter how much redstates try to cut welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 20, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Lets take mississippi for example... Next to the district columbia it prolly is the worst on taxes paid vs benefit. 1.5 million acres of fed land.... More than the north east combined almost. Also it's population next to the district of columbia has the largest percent of black people by a large amount..... Like 40 percent of the state population. Blacks arent notorious for be successful outside of athletics... Like i said blue states dont want states to have federal land in the states hand to control and they like keeping minorities in poverty. Blue states arent cutting mississippi black people off of welfare... Not happening no matter how much redstates try to cut welfare. Just tattoo 'I'm a fucking hick' on your forehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: . Pick one: States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid: 1. New Mexico: $2.63 2. West Virginia: $2.57 3. Mississippi: $2.47 4. District of Colombia: $2.41 5. Hawaii: $2.38 6. Alabama: $2.03 7. Alaska: $1.93 8. Montana: $1.92 9. South Carolina: $1.92 10. Maine: $1.78 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps Please, show me what funding that New Mexico gets? How did they come up with 2.63? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, SnowRider said: Just tattoo 'I'm a fucking hick' on your forehead You dont have the intellect or the comprehension ability to understand. You dont think the MS black population takes in massive federal dollars to keep it viable??? you are more dumb then i thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 20, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, racer254 said: Please, show me what funding that New Mexico gets? How did they come up with 2.63? Research Doe Dumb - maybe you'll something. Or ask some of the Mainetahd's..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 20, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You dont have the intellect or the comprehension ability to understand. You dont think the MS black population takes in massive federal dollars to keep it viable??? you are more dumb then i thought What's going on in Maine? They are white and the logging companies own the land.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Research Doe Dumb - maybe you'll something. Or ask some of the Mainetahd's..... So you can't do it? You just want to complain about someone getting more money then you? That's typical of a democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 20, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 New mexico... Border state, white sand military installation.... Huge amounts of federal land and huge amounts of reservations. Big federal dollars. Spent there cause of all of the above. http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/10-states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government.html/?a=viewall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BOHICA said: New mexico... Border state, white sand military installation.... Huge amounts of federal land and huge amounts of reservations. Big federal dollars. Spent there cause of all of the above. http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/10-states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government.html/?a=viewall Isn't New Mexico a left leaning state? http://www.gallup.com/poll/188969/red-states-outnumber-blue-first-time-gallup-tracking.aspx Edited June 20, 2016 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 20, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, racer254 said: So you can't do it? You just want to complain about someone getting more money then you? That's typical of a democrat. 25 minutes ago, BOHICA said: New mexico... Border state, white sand military installation.... Huge amounts of federal land and huge amounts of reservations. Big federal dollars. Spent there cause of all of the above. http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/10-states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government.html/?a=viewall You two dumb R's miss the point. Red states complain about taxes and elect R reps who are 'gonna cut taxes, cut gooberment, and are all about 'states rights' while being the biggest titty suckers of federal dollars. Red states are the takers and blue states are the makers Your rhetoric and the rhetoric of the party and officials you two support is not supported by the facts. Simple. You're either dumb or do not want to accept the truth....take your pick Edited June 20, 2016 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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