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2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

That is the juxtaposition that should end these kinds of threads.

Why is that..are either of those two The President? Maybe bring up Obama again.

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Just now, Jimmy Snacks said:

Why is that..are either of those two The President? Maybe bring up Obama again.

They both sure want to be.  Maybe I'll post whatever the hell I want and you'll like it.  :dunno: 

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Just now, Jimmy Snacks said:

Why is that..are either of those two The President? Maybe bring up Obama again.

I'll start talking after the 1,000th death. That way we can compare apples to apples.

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Just now, DriftBusta said:

They both sure want to be.  Maybe I'll post whatever the hell I want and you'll like it.  :dunno: 

Good for you...IDGAF what you post. There is one President currently..focus on that.

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2 minutes ago, Snake said:

I'll start talking after the 1,000th death. That way we can compare apples to apples.

Oh how edgy...meanwhile the world is shutdown.

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1 minute ago, Snake said:

1,000 people.

Your quips can't change facts.

Well gee Moe I'm sure you'll get your wish soon considering the way things are going....WTF.

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12 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Well gee Moe I'm sure you'll get your wish soon considering the way things are going....WTF.

Fact is Trump has done more, sooner, in the face of a pandemic than Obama did, and that fact roils you because Obama HAS to be better than Trump. (He just HAS to be.)

 

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

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Trump expelled journalists from the whitehouse for asking questions he didn't like. That covers one and to.

Trump wanted pressured the NFL to fire the SOB that kneeled.

Trump didn't just insult the reporters he outright lied or insulted them in order to avoid the question. 

His lies are going to get even more people killed.  

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

Fact is Trump has done more, sooner, in the face of a pandemic than Obama did, and that fact roils you because Obama HAS to be better than Trump. (He just HAS to be.)

 

Those aren't really the facts.  You may believe them but that is no surprise.  Here is the politifact take on your "facts"

The numbers in the post actually show a death rate for COVID-19 at more than 100 times that of H1N1.

In any case, it is misleading to compare the two outbreaks at this point in the coronavirus pandemic.

COVID-19 has been in the United States for only about two months; the swine flu figures are for one year, from April 2009 to 2010.

As we’ve reported, it’s difficult this early in an outbreak for public health experts to estimate death rates for the coronavirus; early estimates often undercount mild cases and fail to take into account the fact that some recently infected patients are going to die in the future.

When we published this fact-check, the latest figures from the World Health Organization, for March 17, 2020, showed a surge in COVID-19 cases in the days since the post — 3,503 cases of COVID-19 in the United States, including 58 deaths.

Indeed, it’s too soon to know precisely how deadly COVID-19 is, several experts said.

"The COVID numbers in no way define the problem. We will know the problem after we do many, many tests," said Dr. Myron Cohen, professor of medicine, microbiology and immunology, and epidemiology at the University of North Carolina and director of its Institute for Global Health & Infectious Diseases.

"Comparing flu" generally and COVID-19 "is simply not a good idea," he said.  "For flu, the world has vast experience and vaccines. And treatments. And a well-defined mortality rate far lower than COVID. So, as the world faces a new, very contagious fatal infection, it is not surprising that we all feel anxious."

Said Richard Watanabe, professor of preventive medicine and physiology and biophysics at the University of Southern California: "The raw numbers make H1N1 look worse, but in reality the risk of death is much higher for COVID-19."

As for the post’s claim of mass hysteria over coronavirus versus a totally chill response to H1N1, it’s worth noting President Barack Obama’s acting director of health and human services declaredH1N1 a public health emergency when the United States had only 20 confirmed cases of H1N1 and no deaths.

Moreover, as FactCheck.org reported, while the H1N1 death toll may sound high, it was far lower than initially expected. It also turned out to have a case fatality rate of just 0.02% — well below even many typical seasonal influenzas. 

So, given that indications are the coronavirus death rate is much higher — and given that experts warn the nation’s hospitals are under-prepared to treat the numbers of patients predicted to need care — it makes sense that state and local governments are taking significant action to limit its spread.

Our ruling

The impact in the United States of swine flu might appear much worse than COVID-19, but it lasted for a year, whereas the coronavirus has been here only about two months. And while it’s too soon to calculate how deadly COVID-19 will be, two experts told us it is clearly more deadly than H1N1. This statement contains an element of truth in that the figures quoted were accurate at the time they were posted, but the post ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate this Mostly False.

Correction, March 19, 2020: An earlier version of this story contained a typo in the first paragraph that mischaracterized the claim being made in the viral image. The story has been updated.

 

 

 

 

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