washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) I know most here aren't big fans of good news but maybe give it a shot. I don't want to hear a bunch of Shapiro s*** He's been as critical or more critical than most of Trump over the beginning of this https://www.dailywire.com/news/curl-covid-19-in-the-u-s-doomsday-numbers-just-dont-add-up?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro Edited March 18, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Reality or common sense says is it does raise some valid questions. I had not heard any predictions this dire in the US. Have heard as many as 750,000K and Bernie said as many as the US lost in WW2 4-500,000. Worst-case scenario, COVID-19 could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and kill as many as 1.7 million Americans. The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead. Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data. COVID-19 was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1. On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the virus, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died (the remainder were still active cases). So that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected? Again, look at the numbers. The virus pounded China from December through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the communist leaders’ claim). In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero. The spread of COVID-19 in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened Edited March 18, 2020 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Reality or common sense says is it does raise some valid questions. Worst-case scenario, COVID-19 could infect between up to 214 million people over a period of more than a year — and kill as many as 1.7 million Americans. The New York Times used an even more dire model: 2.1 million dead. Let’s back up a second. China has a population of 1,437,722,468 as of Tuesday, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data. COVID-19 was born there, with the first case being diagnosed on Dec. 1. On Tuesday, there were 81,054 confirmed cases of the virus, according to Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering. Of those, 68,798 recovered, while 3,230 people died (the remainder were still active cases). So that means the infection rate in China was just .006%. How, then, are the “experts” forecasting that well more than 50% of the 320 million people in America — where people already wash their hands incessantly and use Purell nonstop — will be infected? Again, look at the numbers. The virus pounded China from December through the third week of February — more than 10 weeks in all — before it leveled off (if you can believe the communist leaders’ claim). In the Hubei province, just more than 11% of the nearly 60 million residents were infected. And that was ground zero. The spread of COVID-19 in China began leveling off a week before February ended. It topped 80,000 on March 1, but 14 days later it was still less than 81,000. The curve had flattened Ive seen reports where infected #s were much higher. But who knows at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 More China stats highmark ...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Anler said: More good news for you to not believe https://www.livescience.com/flu-drug-could-treat-coronavirus.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Redheaded Stepchild said: Ive seen reports where infected #s were much higher. But who knows at this point. Question is how long must we operate this status to achieve a relatively low impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: More China stats highmark ...?? Its from the article. Not saying I believe anything out of China but I'd look at our previous outbreaks and actions. In 2009 it was estimated 61 million Americans acquired H1N1 and we did relatively NOTHING to stop the spread. Yeah this might be more contagious but the attempt to stop the spread is unprecedented in American life. If this still infects 200 million American's then there is no hope for a really serious one. It will kill 1/4 of the worlds population. Edited March 18, 2020 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, washedupmxer said: More good news for you to not believe https://www.livescience.com/flu-drug-could-treat-coronavirus.html You believe what comes from China? Lets be honest we all hope that there is some truth here. But I remain skeptical of anything from China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Question is how long must we operate this status to achieve a relatively low impact? Until we see a decline im guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: More China stats highmark ...?? I'm going with them. I refuse to believe the best human health minds we have would willingly distribute inaccurate propaganda Edited March 18, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Redheaded Stepchild said: You believe what comes from China? Lets be honest we all hope that there is some truth here. But I remain skeptical of anything from China. Btw this isn't from China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Its from the article. Not saying I believe anything out of China but in 2009 it was estimated 61 million Americans acquired H1N1 and we did relatively NOTHING to stop the spread. Bah ... 1 minute ago, washedupmxer said: I'm going with them. I refuse to believe the best human health minds we have we re distribute inaccurate propaganda China owns/runs the WHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ford_428cj said: Bah ... China owns/runs the WHO. You're welcome to believe what you want and I'll do the same. Neither of us really know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, washedupmxer said: Btw this isn't from China Quoted the wrong post. You could still answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redheaded Stepchild said: Quoted the wrong post. You could still answer the question. I just did another post 6 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: I'm going with them. I refuse to believe the best human health minds we have would willingly distribute inaccurate propaganda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Its from the article. Not saying I believe anything out of China but I'd look at our previous outbreaks and actions. In 2009 it was estimated 61 million Americans acquired H1N1 and we did relatively NOTHING to stop the spread. Yeah this might be more contagious but the attempt to stop the spread is unprecedented in American life. If this still infects 200 million American's then there is no hope for a really serious one. It will kill 3/4 of the worlds population. H1N1 had a low mortality rate. Lower than seasonal flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, washedupmxer said: You're welcome to believe what you want and I'll do the same. Neither of us really know I believe numbers from the West. Top Docs here say it's going to over run our hospitals big time if we stay status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Just now, spin_dry said: H1N1 had a low mortality rate. Lower than seasonal flu. More comparing the number infected predictions based on how many got H1N1. We did nothing then and it didn't infect 200 million...not even close. If the numbers are accurate. Edited March 18, 2020 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: I believe numbers from the West. Top Docs here say it's going to over run our hospitals big time if we stay status quo. My numbers are from the west as well. I don't believe all doctors are on board with you're saying and there is quite a bit of disagreement. Edited March 18, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 That's what you guys think about what Sweden's doing? Would it scare the living s*** out of you if we did that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 18, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, washedupmxer said: That's what you guys think about what Sweden's doing? Would it scare the living s*** out of you if we did that? What are they doing different than us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, washedupmxer said: That's what you guys think about what Sweden's doing? Would it scare the living s*** out of you if we did that? What is Sweden doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) . Edited March 18, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Redheaded Stepchild said: What is Sweden doing? 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: What are they doing different than us? Herd immunity Edited March 18, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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