Rod Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Doos pricing is just fucktarded, the new XP plastics are in all honesty pretty ugly and their trail sleds are expensive and boring. polaris makes some really nice sleds and arctic cats value for the dollar is way better than anyone else. One guy I know here has bought a new doo almost every year for at least 15 years but now he’s on a cat 800 because of cost. And he likes it. Doo dealer quoted him almost 7000 difference on his 850 doo for one year. That’s fucked doo needs to pay attention to their boring trail line up and give us what we want for a change. I’ve been waiting since 08 for something exciting and it just isn’t happening and who seriously finally builds a turbo 4 stroke “Performance trail” sled to only make 150 hp?? Seriously? Gay as fuck Polaris overall recreational vehicle sales are just astronomical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Well, I’ve long said that Doo makes the most reliable, best performing sled out of the box. And I still believe it. Their resales prove that BUT, that still leaves a lot for those wanting performance and not a bunch of linq bolt on bullshit. What I see Textron doing now is what I’ve said the sled industry is heading to for years. Regional dealers and online orders. It just makes sense. Prices are back to reasonable if not good and it keeps the overhead down. Now, it’s up to Textron to flush AC with cash for engineering and design to make people head online. Those three girl sleds aren’t going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, Zambroski said: Well, I’ve long said that Doo makes the most reliable, best performing sled out of the box. And I still believe it. Their resales prove that BUT, that still leaves a lot for those wanting performance and not a bunch of linq bolt on bullshit. What I see Textron doing now is what I’ve said the sled industry is heading to for years. Regional dealers and online orders. It just makes sense. Prices are back to reasonable if not good and it keeps the overhead down. Now, it’s up to Textron to flush AC with cash for engineering and design to make people head online. Those three girl sleds aren’t going to do it. The only doo I’ve had that was reliable was the 1200 i think arctic cat will do well with their pricing. Lots of people I know stopped buying new sleds because of cost. Factor in the depreciation rate on a $20,000 sled and its nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Cheaper to rent sleds unless you use them all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I saw mostly cats on the trails and a ton of Doos last weekend. Not seeing as many Revs as I used to. That’s all you used to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I saw mostly cats on the trails and a ton of Doos last weekend. Not seeing as many Revs as I used to. That’s all you used to see. Yeah used to be nothing here but revs and firecats i jumped on a rev coming off my new cat and was surprised how ancient the rev felt. They used to be so awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Cheaper to rent sleds unless you use them all the time. I don’t see ever doing that. I’m not a touristy rider and I don’t like even swapping “like” sleds out there. I set mine up for me and tune it just for how I like to ride. Honestly, even if I only ran once or twice a year, I’d still have my own ride...they are still fun to tinker all year long for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zambroski said: I don’t see ever doing that. I’m not a touristy rider and I don’t like even swapping “like” sleds out there. I set mine up for me and tune it just for how I like to ride. Honestly, even if I only ran once or twice a year, I’d still have my own ride...they are still fun to tinker all year long for me. true, but most guys don't know how or have the needed tools, especially now with all the electronic testing tools required to check problems. Edited February 16, 2020 by XCR1250 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hardly ever see any cats around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Hardly ever see any cats around here Same here, almost never see Cat's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 16, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Zambroski said: Well, I’ve long said that Doo makes the most reliable, best performing sled out of the box. And I still believe it. Their resales prove that BUT, that still leaves a lot for those wanting performance and not a bunch of linq bolt on bullshit. What I see Textron doing now is what I’ve said the sled industry is heading to for years. Regional dealers and online orders. It just makes sense. Prices are back to reasonable if not good and it keeps the overhead down. Now, it’s up to Textron to flush AC with cash for engineering and design to make people head online. Those three girl sleds aren’t going to do it. Not that I disagree but Textron is actively trying to sell Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not that I disagree but Textron is actively trying to sell Cat. I hope they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, XCR1250 said: Same here, almost never see Cat's. I’d say 3/4 of the sleds in snow drags are cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: I’d say 3/4 of the sleds in snow drags are cats I should post some pics from races here, perhaps 5% are Cat's in the local Lake Ice drags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: I should post some pics from races here, perhaps 5% are Cat's in the local Lake Ice drags. You still runnin’ yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You still runnin’ yours? The Ice Drags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zambroski said: You still runnin’ yours? My bad. Missed “ice”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: I should post some pics from races here, perhaps 5% are Cat's in the local Lake Ice drags. Piles of cat stockers. Some improvers. Doo triples still seem to be the engine of choice for improved class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ACE said: Piles of cat stockers. Some improvers. Doo triples still seem to be the engine of choice for improved class Dude , slingshot flash on stock clutching is retarded. It’s a fucking animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Dude , slingshot flash on stock clutching is retarded. It’s a fucking animal Wat? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: Wat? Lol After 159 miles though I have isolated what needs to improve. It was inconsistent across the wide temp change yesterday. I think the compression secondary is first to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: After 159 miles though I have isolated what needs to improve. It was inconsistent across the wide temp change yesterday. I think the compression secondary is first to go Ahhhhhh those sleds are a performance bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 A well done stock turbo z1T can beat 1000 improvers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ACE said: A well done stock turbo z1T can beat 1000 improvers Best I saw in perfect conditions stock was flickering 109-110. Tune only saw 121 last nights and it was cooking the belt at 115% OD. Short track gears go in this week. It will run mid 130s in snow Edited February 17, 2020 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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